Aren't we 2 games ahead of the Royals for fangraphs projections? Cespedes would put us ahead of Detroit.

You of all people should know how bad those Fangraphs predictions are for the Royals. I wouldn't put any stock in them there.

Hawk never said that . He said it would take " a lot of heat " off Avi. Why do people make things up ?

 

It's caufield, he makes up a lot of strawman arguments

I'll quote Cali.

 

You can have $1.6 billion if you can pull the quote where I ever stated/claimed/asserted signing Dexter Fowler equals 90 losses?

 

C'mon, you're supposed to be better than that.

 

 

Nobody ever said sign Cespedes for $150 million.

 

It was always something like $85-110 million. And yes, if signing Upton made the Tigers World Series contenders, why wouldn't signing Cespedes accomplish the same if the White Sox were the better team last season and also upgraded three other offensive positions?

 

Aren't we 2 games ahead of the Royals for fangraphs projections? Cespedes would put us ahead of Detroit.

Signing Fowler also improves the team WAR. The catastrophe of not getting Cespedes is way overblown. He's clearly the better player, but there are other ways to win. There is probably an 8.7852%-15.464 % chacnce Fowler is actually better the next 3 years. And it sets the White Sox up a player for the big free agent class of 2018 if he would take 3 years.

 

Jim Essian, Kirk McCaskill, Kevin Bell, Todd Cruz (wanna buy a watch), Tex Wortham.

Edited January 21, 201610 yr by Dick Allen

You of all people should know how bad those Fangraphs predictions are for the Royals. I wouldn't put any stock in them there.

 

Yes, but that's perhaps the only thing on the marketing department's side right now...claiming the Royals were lucky two seasons in a row is getting to be a more difficult sell.

Signing Fowler also improves the team WAR. The catastrophe of not getting Cespedes is way overblown. He's clearly the better player, but there are other ways to win.

 

Jim Essian, Kirk McCaskill, Kevin Bell, Todd Cruz (wanna buy a watch), Tex Wortham.

 

So do Desmond and Jackson.

 

Your point?

 

Once again, where did I equate signing Fowler with 90 losses?

 

Please find the quote.

 

 

Gordon Beckham, John Danks and Ubaldo Jimenez are Golden Gods.

Edited January 21, 201610 yr by caulfield12

Yes, but that's perhaps the only thing on the marketing department's side right now...claiming the Royals were lucky two seasons in a row is getting to be a more difficult sell.

Can you show me one marketing department in sports who has ever tried to use fangraphs projections as a means to sell anything?

 

Just stop.

So do Desmond and Jackson.

 

Your point?

 

Once again, where did I equate signing Fowler with 90 losses?

 

Please find the quote.

 

 

Gordon Beckham, John Danks and Ubaldo Jimenez are Golden Gods.

Never said you did, but you mentioned the buzzkill and the hopelessness.You did state with #6 in your Royals manifesto how Fowler could be a good signing for them. Of course, now he would be a horrible idea.

 

 

Ralph Garr, BB Richard, Alan Bannister, Jim Spencer.

Yes, but that's perhaps the only thing on the marketing department's side right now...claiming the Royals were lucky two seasons in a row is getting to be a more difficult sell.

Are you literally insane? How many times have you suggested a marketing department could use advanced metrics as part of a sales pitch? I think you're up to five this offseason alone and every time you look more ridiculous when you say this s***.

Signing Fowler also improves the team WAR. The catastrophe of not getting Cespedes is way overblown. He's clearly the better player, but there are other ways to win. There is probably an 8.7852%-15.464 % chacnce Fowler is actually better the next 3 years. And it sets the White Sox up a player for the big free agent class of 2018 if he would take 3 years.

 

Jim Essian, Kirk McCaskill, Kevin Bell, Todd Cruz (wanna buy a watch), Tex Wortham.

 

 

True. I don't think the White Sox want to give up that draft pick though. I would agree with them if true. Fowler isn't good enough to give up that pick for. He offers OBP and would be a nice fit in the 2 spot. He'd upgrade the team. Like it's been debated here though, I'd rather sign Austin Jackson for even cheaper and take the defensive value and chance at an offensive bounce back from a guy that won't have to play primarily at Safeco anymore.

Are you literally insane? How many times have you suggested a marketing department could use advanced metrics as part of a sales pitch? I think you're up to five this offseason alone and every time you look more ridiculous when you say this s***.

 

That's the point. When arguably the best sales/marketing point is something 95% of Sox fans have no clue about, you're swimming in some troubled waters.

 

You tell me...you're calling past season ticket holders today and convincing them to return to the fold, what would your three top arguments be?

 

Todd Frazier....and?

Altar...

 

 

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/01/20/forbes...-valuable-team/

Bulls worth $2.3 billion, third most valuable franchise in NBA.

 

If you add up all the NFL teams, with the Rams now doubling in value and third highest after Cowboys and Pats...NFL is worth $64.85 billion.

 

NBA at $37.65 billion.

 

Last year, MLB was $36 billion and that will be updated by Forbes this spring so they will be ahead of the NBA but should jump to mid $40's in March. White Sox were 16th at $975 million.

 

Combined White Sox and Bulls, would be one of the top six in the world along with Yankees, Man U, Real Madrid, Cowboys, Patriots...ahead of Knicks and Lakers.

 

Wtf are you talking about?

Never said you did, but you mentioned the buzzkill and the hopelessness.You did state with #6 in your Royals manifesto how Fowler could be a good signing for them. Of course, now he would be a horrible idea.

 

 

Ralph Garr, BB Richard, Alan Bannister, Jim Spencer.

 

Yes, after the compensation draft pick period expires.

 

Now that they've lost it for Kennedy, they might just go ahead and sign Kendrick, Desmond or Fowler the same way we lost two lower picks last year.

 

I never once said sign him if it means losing the pick.

@devinlintaoNY Early morning news: The #Nationals offer is not a good one, #Mets and #WhiteSox could make an offer by day's end.

Can you show me one marketing department in sports who has ever tried to use fangraphs projections as a means to sell anything?

 

Just stop.

 

 

What are the marketing department's three top talking points for today's efforts to drum up season ticket interest?

What are the marketing department's three top talking points for today's efforts to drum up season ticket interest?

 

Who cares?

@devinlintaoNY Early morning news: The #Nationals offer is not a good one, #Mets and #WhiteSox could make an offer by day's end.

 

I would be skeptical of any message coming out of NY since their agenda is obviously seeing him back with the Mets.

@devinlintaoNY Early morning news: The #Nationals offer is not a good one, #Mets and #WhiteSox could make an offer by day's end.

I don't have access to Twitter right now. Is this guy well regarded as far as baseball news goes?

Who cares?

 

Then why spend over 300 pages discussing someone who doesn't even play for the White Sox if it's so inconsequential?

Then why spend over 300 pages discussing someone who doesn't even play for the White Sox if it's so inconsequential?

You're in a Cespedes thread and you're talking about the Bulls worth and the marketing team's talking points, you're all over the f***in place and not talking about what this thread is for.

What are the marketing department's three top talking points for today's efforts to drum up season ticket interest?

Why are you so fascinated with season ticket sales? I will tell you one thing, I have a small weekend package right now and yesterday was upgrade day. There wasn't a lot of upgrades available. The people with the good seats kept them.

I don't have access to Twitter right now. Is this guy well regarded as far as baseball news goes?

Covers the Mets. mets.com 15K followers

I would be skeptical of any message coming out of NY since their agenda is obviously seeing him back with the Mets.

Well since they're in the NL East with Nats I'm sure they hear things regardless of their agenda or what you think it is.

I really have the feeling the White Sox are the only serious bidders out there.

Then why spend over 300 pages discussing someone who doesn't even play for the White Sox if it's so inconsequential?

 

Because we want to discuss whether or not our team is going to win. Not whether or not the Sox marketing team has put together some talking points for the ticket reps.

Then why spend over 300 pages discussing someone who doesn't even play for the White Sox if it's so inconsequential?

 

It is consequential. What you are talking about, is not