CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 2 hours ago, smellysox said: That's exactly what this reminds me of. If I were Springer or his agent I would so wait or encourage him to wait it out. With the sox history of being cheap. I bet there's a team or two circling us right now like vultures. I'm not giving up yet. But this is the kind of thing that really makes being a sox fan difficult. Sox fans we are a special breed! Enduring pain, suffering, and low to below average payrolls. Didn't the Sox offer Wheeler 5/$118 to Wheeler ? Now admittedly Wheeler was younger but still a pitcher who the Sox hardly ever offer long term contracts. If the Sox are truly in on Springer I wouldn't be surprised to see them get him. Of course the situation can change if they splurge on pitching instead and that would probably mean they are out on Springer. To me it all depends on what they do 1st with their money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Just now, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Didn't the Sox offer Wheeler 5/$118 to Wheeler ? Now admittedly Wheeler was younger but still a pitcher who the Sox hardly ever offer long term contracts. If the Sox are truly in on Springer I wouldn't be surprised to see them get him. Of course the situation can change if they splurge on pitching instead and that would probably mean they are out on Springer. To me it all depends on what they do 1st with their money. I just want to see some indication they’re going to spend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.J. Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Springer is such a perfect fit for this team, but he'll command a 5 year deal and if he takes the highest offer on the table it won't be from the White Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, fathom said: I just want to see some indication they’re going to spend As do we all but we might have to wait a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Just now, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: As do we all but we might have to wait a while. Beggars can't be choosers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, R.J. said: Springer is such a perfect fit for this team, but he'll command a 5 year deal and if he takes the highest offer on the table it won't be from the White Sox. Perfect fit for the lineup, not so sure about the perfect fit for the team since starting pitching should be the 1st priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 An outfielder in his thirties has regression written all over it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 The White Sox offered 5/125 for Wheeler and the indication was that they had him. Sox have tried to land Springer in a similar fashion. This isn’t a Machado situation where you’re just waiting to get beat but it doesn’t seem like Springer is in any hurry and honestly he shouldn’t be. Everyone should wait for the Mets at this point. Stuff should start to move a bit after December 2 once the market gets super flooded. I doubt players are knocking down the door to play in Toronto though. They typically have to be the highest offer to land a superstar in similar fashion to the Sox. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Just now, Y2Jimmy0 said: The White Sox offered 5/125 for Wheeler and the indication was that they had him. Sox have tried to land Springer in a similar fashion. This isn’t a Machado situation where you’re just waiting to get beat but it doesn’t seem like Springer is in any hurry and honestly he shouldn’t be. Everyone should wait for the Mets at this point. Stuff should start to move a bit after December 2 once the market gets super flooded. I doubt players are knocking down the door to play in Toronto though. They typically have to be the highest offer to land a superstar in similar fashion to the Sox. Don’t you have something better to do!!!! Congrats 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, fathom said: Don’t you have something better to do!!!! Congrats Yeah he’s sleeping. I’ve got some time for awhile haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: The White Sox offered 5/125 for Wheeler and the indication was that they had him. Sox have tried to land Springer in a similar fashion. This isn’t a Machado situation where you’re just waiting to get beat but it doesn’t seem like Springer is in any hurry and honestly he shouldn’t be. Everyone should wait for the Mets at this point. Stuff should start to move a bit after December 2 once the market gets super flooded. I doubt players are knocking down the door to play in Toronto though. They typically have to be the highest offer to land a superstar in similar fashion to the Sox. Damn if I had sources I could be a wise twitter pundit like you since I said the exact same thing a few posts up. And congrats ,too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 44 minutes ago, R.J. said: Springer is such a perfect fit for this team, but he'll command a 5 year deal and if he takes the highest offer on the table it won't be from the White Sox. I disagree. It really depends on what the Mets decide to do. I think we can match Toronto from a financial standpoint and I’d argue we are a far more attractive destination outside of the wild card that is La Russa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I disagree. It really depends on what the Mets decide to do. I think we can match Toronto from a financial standpoint and I’d argue we are a far more attractive destination outside of the wild card that is La Russa. They don’t even know where their home field will be in 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 30 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: The White Sox offered 5/125 for Wheeler and the indication was that they had him. Sox have tried to land Springer in a similar fashion. This isn’t a Machado situation where you’re just waiting to get beat but it doesn’t seem like Springer is in any hurry and honestly he shouldn’t be. Everyone should wait for the Mets at this point. Stuff should start to move a bit after December 2 once the market gets super flooded. I doubt players are knocking down the door to play in Toronto though. They typically have to be the highest offer to land a superstar in similar fashion to the Sox. Let me ask you this James, do you believe our current offer is 4/$94M? If true, that doesn’t seem like that aggressive of an offer to me. Also, congrats on the birth of your son! Love the name as my second son happens to be named Bennett Jack. Hope you wife is doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, fathom said: They don’t even know where their home field will be in 2021 Exactly. Unknown location for 2021, currency volatility, and the fact that in outer years you’ll be playing in a foreign country all make it a less desirable destination than Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellysox Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 59 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Didn't the Sox offer Wheeler 5/$118 to Wheeler ? Now admittedly Wheeler was younger but still a pitcher who the Sox hardly ever offer long term contracts. If the Sox are truly in on Springer I wouldn't be surprised to see them get him. Of course the situation can change if they splurge on pitching instead and that would probably mean they are out on Springer. To me it all depends on what they do 1st with their money. Yes they were. They were a finalist for Tanaka too. Not sure how close they really were to the Yankees winning offer. But you are right. It does matter where the money is spent first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) The first offer isn’t necessarily the last one. If the reported 4/$94M is true and it’s the Sox first offer it doesn’t mean that’s where negotiations will finish unless the Sox are set on that number and they aren’t willing to go any higher than that. However, the 4/$94 isn’t really a bad deal. If they are truly that far apart, sometimes it’s best to just walk away and not overpay if the other party is asking for way more than you want to pay or what the market is set at. If it’s meant to be, it’s meant to be. The Sox have other needs and interests just like the other party does. Edited November 28, 2020 by maloney.adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: Let me ask you this James, do you believe our current offer is 4/$94M? If true, that doesn’t seem like that aggressive of an offer to me. Also, congrats on the birth of your son! Love the name as my second son happens to be named Bennett Jack. Hope you wife is doing well. Thanks man. I don’t have any specifics on money. I think $23.5 per sounds realistic though. No idea on number of years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 We buying this guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Orlando said: We buying this guys? Not buying it especially with Cohen. Edited November 28, 2020 by maloney.adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagahRagah Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: If you want to sign a stud free agent it will always be a year too long. It really astounds me how so many people here want stars yet don't want to ever overpay or give a year or 2 more than projected usefulness. That's just his free agency is and has been for quite a while now. You have to take these risks sometimes otherwise you end up being a team like... the White Sox. Yuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, Orlando said: We buying this guys? I’ll be honest, some of these posts seem like an echo chamber to what we’re posting on here. In this case, the White Sox having an edge over the Blue Jays is something several of literally just posted. That being said, I do think the Mets prioritize Realmuto & pitching and go with a lesser CF option. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) I think Toronto has a better shot in signing Jackie Bradley Jr. Edited November 28, 2020 by maloney.adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 3 hours ago, R.J. said: Springer is such a perfect fit for this team, but he'll command a 5 year deal and if he takes the highest offer on the table it won't be from the White Sox. What makes him a perfect fit???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said: What makes him a perfect fit???? Springer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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