flavum Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Phil Rogers is saying suspensions/fines could be announced late today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 as much as i hate to say this, b/c the sox was on the loosing end, i like the life KC is showing. the old Tony Larussa style of playing baseball. the one part that was bush, what the animated FU that was said by the pitchers. however, i wonder what Eaton was saying to him as he was jogging to first base? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 11:11 AM) Phil Rogers is saying suspensions/fines could be announced late today. I'm sure they want to get them announced before game time tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 From some of the stuff I read it seemed like Eaton was chirping at him because he quick pitched him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 10:54 AM) From some of the stuff I read it seemed like Eaton was chirping at him because he quick pitched him. What exactly is wrong with quick pitching? Is that one of the unwritten rules that leads to Brian McCann fighting everyone too? Speaking of, why isn't he on the Royals yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 10:56 AM) What exactly is wrong with quick pitching? Is that one of the unwritten rules that leads to Brian McCann fighting everyone too? Speaking of, why isn't he on the Royals yet? Personally I don't think there is anything wrong with it. Eaton probably said something to Ventura and then Ventura responded in kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 10:56 AM) What exactly is wrong with quick pitching? Is that one of the unwritten rules that leads to Brian McCann fighting everyone too? Speaking of, why isn't he on the Royals yet? Hitters dont like it, thats all. Not illegal but not appreciated. The hitters feel like if the pitcher gets time to get ready and throw their pitch, they should get the same respect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 11:03 AM) Hitters dont like it, thats all. Not illegal but not appreciated. The hitters feel like if the pitcher gets time to get ready and throw their pitch, they should get the same respect This makes sense. I don't know if Eaton said anything warranting a "f*** you" but Ventura really needs to grow up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 04:04 PM) This makes sense. I don't know if Eaton said anything warranting a "f*** you" but Ventura really needs to grow up. first, i can understand the quick pitch and all, but come on, when the hitter steps into the box, they are ready. if players don't like that, then get a running clock. the batters has every right to take their time by stepping in and out of the box. second, if Eaton did complain, i think i would say the same thing, but not as animated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 11:03 AM) Hitters dont like it, thats all. Not illegal but not appreciated. The hitters feel like if the pitcher gets time to get ready and throw their pitch, they should get the same respect Given the opponent and the recent drama, you probably shouldn't expect him to follow the "gentlemanly" ways of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 11:14 AM) first, i can understand the quick pitch and all, but come on, when the hitter steps into the box, they are ready. if players don't like that, then get a running clock. the batters has every right to take their time by stepping in and out of the box. second, if Eaton did complain, i think i would say the same thing, but not as animated. MLB has decided that the batters don't have the right to step out of the box and must keep one foot in at all times. New rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I don't think batters should be granted time outs, and there should be more urgency to pitch. But Pitchers should have more leeway due to base runners and other field items that they have to control that the batters don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Ventura quick pitched him because hes a dick, nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 11:37 AM) Ventura quick pitched him because hes a dick, nothing more. Yeah, there actually should be a rule where the ump has discretion to call a no-pitch. Changing your cadence once you start your motion...no problem. But to try to be a jerk on purpose, the ump should be able to call a no-pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 11:34 AM) I don't think batters should be granted time outs, and there should be more urgency to pitch. But Pitchers should have more leeway due to base runners and other field items that they have to control that the batters don't. I disagree. The pitcher versus the batter is like a chess match. If you're going to grant the pitcher basically all the time in the world to deliver his pitch, you should allow the batter to do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Duke quick pitched someone last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 11:46 AM) I disagree. The pitcher versus the batter is like a chess match. If you're going to grant the pitcher basically all the time in the world to deliver his pitch, you should allow the batter to do the same. I don't think pitchers should get all the time in the world, but just more leeway. And chess matches are incredibly boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatnom Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 11:46 AM) Duke quick pitched someone last week. This was my thought as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (OnlyGillis @ Apr 23, 2015 -> 09:35 PM) Who was the guy in the jacket that took a swing at Jeff as he was going to the ground? Edinson Volquez, who missed thanks to his lack of command. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Some kc reporter to be on high heat in a few minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 11:46 AM) Duke quick pitched someone last week. I would need to see it again, but did he start his motion after the batter was set, or while the batter was in the middle of a pre-pitch routine? There's a difference, in my opinion. It's not as simple as the batter is in the box and should be ready to hit at any moment. There needs to be a little bit of an understanding that the batter gets a second to get ready for a pitch, and we all know it when we see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 It's a shame ventura is such a p**** that he went and hid by the camera well. I'd have more respect if he at least stood his ground. Eaton should've charged him. Oh well. Insult to injury is that we blew chances to bring a run home in the 8th and win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 12:14 PM) Edinson Volquez, who missed thanks to his lack of command. BOOM> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 12:17 PM) I would need to see it again, but did he start his motion after the batter was set, or while the batter was in the middle of a pre-pitch routine? There's a difference, in my opinion. It's not as simple as the batter is in the box and should be ready to hit at any moment. There needs to be a little bit of an understanding that the batter gets a second to get ready for a pitch, and we all know it when we see it. The batter definitely wasn't set. It looked like one of those step off throws to first a lefty makes although obviously he didn't step off, it looked like he short armed it, and it was about an 85 mph right down the middle. I think it was Carlos Santana, and he couldn't swing. He just took off his pads. If Ventura quick pitched Eaton, I have no problem with it. There is time to get ready in the box. Edited April 24, 2015 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 06:05 AM) There was a HBP earlier in the game, probably unintentional, on what people said was a changeup, my guess was Yost started yelling at Sale because of that. Ventura's comments said that Eaton yelled something at him before he replied. It was an 85 MPH change up. They did a slow mo when it happened and you could see the circle change grip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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