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So shouldn't bWAR correct for that overemphasis on framing then?

Im not sure but fWAR seems to put a lot of emphasis on framing . I have no idea if framing stats is Fangraphs baby but it's over rated. If hes throwing out base stealers and picking guys off base and blocking balls in the dirt, and calling a good game those all equally important to stealing strike calls for your pitchers on the rarer than you might think occasions the umps are influenced by guys moving their gloves into the strike zone .

The Sox include money to SAVE more money, but hardly ever to elevate the prospect return. Once again, the needless inclusion of Tatis in the Shields trade to save just $2-3 million extra per season on that onerous contract. They had already added Erik Johnson, a former top Sox prospect. And how much revenue has Tatis generated for SD? Easily in the hundreds of millions. Penny wise, pound foolish. 26.5 fWAR x $7.5 million=$199 million (if they were to buy that production in FA terms)

A .700 OPS from a catcher is fine these days. They won’t be trading for Quero.

Davis has look like dog dookie and Bart may have looked worse. They have no catcher. Maybe two backups, if they’re lucky.

The Pirates already have two catchers — Joey Bart and their former first rounder Henry Davis. I doubt they would have much interest in Quero.

May I interest you in Robert and Quero

How do you have John Cena tap out in his final match? Triple H is bad at this. The crowd chanted “You fucked up” as Triple H came to the ring celebrate Cena’s retirement. He was then booed soundly when he entered the ring. What a jabroni.

Them Ishbia cash infusions already making a difference.

Sox officials are claiming that they’ll eat money for a better return. I was skeptical as well but that’s what’s being said.

That Meidroth projection would be great Teel and Colson should be better than that I’d take that from Vargas Benintendi, Robert, and Sosa all seem fairly realistic Seems slightly pessimistic on Quero and optimistic for Baldwin

See A-Rod to the White Sox...hard to drive up that final offer without the perception of 2-3 bidders. Even the Pirates have thrown out a $120 million offer this December. Only 10x higher than Kay.

makes sense

Sarcasm?

I think Teel and Quero will be better. However, I’m not buying that Baldwin projection.

This is all cool and all but I hate reading geek s%*#. That's why the games are played. And that's the beauty of it. The unknown. All these geek stats and projections are interesting and so.ewhat informative you can't take them by heart

And your argument is dumb.

Google AI is fun

No, I didn’t forget the Eloy trade at all. Which is why I posted the article and quote so quickly from MLB Trade Rumors. Your argument is an absolute joke. Jerry saved $1.76 million on the Eloy trade. It was either include money to dump him on the Orioles or keep him until the end of the season and eat the entirety of Eloy’s contract, including his $3 million dollar buyout. The entire discussion was around including cash to receive a better return for Robert. How does the Eloy trade relate to this discussion at all? The Eloy trade was a salary dump. The Orioles agreed to pay for half of Eloy’s $3 million dollar buyout because Jerry wanted to save money. Period. The end. But I’m sure you’ll keep trying.

Here's what I think is going on. You forgot about us sending money in the Eloy or trade or forgot the trade existed when you typed it a page ago. The rest of this doesn't matter because the point I was making previous is we have included money in the very recent past in trades. Your digging far too deep trying to diverge from that point.

If you can’t identify the difference between the Eloy trade and a potential Robert trade, I am wasting my fingers typing. Once again, Jerry saved money overall with the Eloy trade. Don’t be dense.

I don’t know what caulfield is talking about but it was simply a salary dump trade to save a bit of money. The reliever they received for Eloy has already retired from baseball. 🤣

"Jerry isn’t likely to include money because he’s Jerry."

I'm really curious as to why you threw in the comment about getting a top prospect back in the Eloy trade in reference to this potential one.

Can't see this happening. This is Boras posturing trying to drive up more interest.