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It's really only 1-2 at this point unless you're just buying an underperforming contract. Adams hasn't proven anything at the major league level yet, and Shane's a total mess still.

We've done this before. Yes, this group feels different from that group, but I remember the days of creating potential future lineups with a "stacked" outfield of Ryan Sweeney-Brian Anderson-Jeremy Reed. It's not to say the White Sox don't have a good foundation for the future, but we have no idea what the next few years will look like, but we know who the Sox are in 2026, as well as the rest of the AL.

How does Wikelman have "real trade value?" An ERA over 5 with a 1.333 whip in the minors.

Of the 24 guys listed above, here are the main ones with real trade value: Hagen Smtih, LHP David Sandlin, RHP Drew Thorpe, RHP William Bergolla, IF Mason Adams, RHP Shane Smith, RHP Wikelman Gonzalez, RHP I fully expect one or two of these guys being dealt at the deadline.

Alright, the post above was just aligning on who the bubble guys might be. The question is whether losing 10 of them would be an actual problem. From my perspective, there are a handful of easy cuts. For the RHPs, Cannon & Davitt could go right now and I wouldn’t care now that Adams & Shane are back as AAA depth. Tyler Davis was solid at times, but is pretty expendable IMO. Iriarte has pitched well and was a former big name, but he’s not K’ing a ton of guys in AAA and only has one option left. I’d take my chances he does not get selected in the Rule 5. That’s four cuts right there. On the LHP front, Gilbert was ok last year, but is old and lacks stuff. Schweitzer has jumped him on the depth chart and a healthy Ky Bush seals his fate. Rock is expendable as well, so that’s two more cuts and six total. It’s the positional side that is challenging. You got to have at least one minor league catcher, infielder, and outfielder on your 40 man. So while neither Perez or Rikuu are key prospects to me, someone has to serve that OF role. I also like all three of the infielders, so at max there is only one easy cut here. After those seven, you start tapping into guys with value. And it’s going to get worse when Bonemer, Roch, & others start pushing their way into the roster mix. The crunch is definitely real and it feels like we will need to trade a few of the guys within the aforementioned group of 24 this deadline to ease the pressures.

Same thing that happened to Schultz. Sox recommended some changes that failed miserably.

What do people think happened to Oppor?

So thinking through this roster crunch and what it means for the upcoming trade deadline. The Sox currently have 38 people on their active 40 man roster and another eight guys on the 60 day IL. There are also several players who will need to be placed on the 40 man roster this coming offseason or be subject to the Rule 5 draft. So we’re currently at 46 guys plus possibly a few more to come. For this exercise, I will assume that we add a catcher, a SP, and a RP at the trade deadline. Let’s assume Romo & Schweitzer are sent down and Fedde is moved out of the rotation and into the bullpen forcing us to trade/DFA Richards. That’s three guys in and one guy out, which maxes out the 40 man roster without an offsetting move being needed. Let’s also assume Pereira ultimately replaces Perez and that Hays is traded. That puts the roster at 47 guys total. Let’s also note that Grichuk, Newcomb, & Fedde are free agents after the year. For this exercise, let’s assume that the catcher & RP we add are rentals but the SP is controllable. Teel replaces the catcher on the 26 man roster. We don’t have an obvious RH outfielder to replace Randall, so assume that’s a FA. I’d also just assume we add two FA arms and leverage McDougal to fill the other spot. That is net attrition of two spots and would bring the roster down to 45. That is before you have to make calls on adding Mason Adams, Bergolla, Iriarte, & Pallette. Hagen Smith also needs to factor into the mix here. Add these five and you’re now up to 50 guys into the equation for 40 roster spots. Ignoring the guys on the 26 man roster, you need to trade, release, or leave unprotected 10 of the following 24 dudes: Infielders (3): Bergolla, Baldwin, Murray Outfielders (2): Nishida, Perez Catchers (1): Romo RH Pitchers (13): Sandlin, Thorpe, Adams, S. Smith, Vasil, Gonzalez, Berrora, Leasure, Davis, Pallette, Iriarte, Cannon, Davitt LH Pitchers (5): H. Smith, Schweizter, Bush, Rock, Gilbert

Also...who said he had no bad trades? Maybe i missed that discussion. I see the prospect hugging is reaching maximum levels too.

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/stats/affiliates?teamId=145&date=07/24/2026 https://www.mlb.com/milb/scores/all/all/whitesox?affiliateId=mlbcom-milb Shane Smith goes at AAA

Probably Bonemer and McDougal...and that just depends on whether they see Caleb as a future 3B or 2B, as they are already projecting deVries to move to third from SS. At that point, you still need pitching and the only big asset left is Carlson. And then there's the risk of 2027 being at least half lost, and with it some of the value of that control comes off. Doubtful you can/should include Teel at such a steep discount. Just throw in Quero as a sweetener as third/fourth piece.

The Phillies have painful experience with "acquire Austin Hays at the trade deadline" in 2024 (in fact, they traded Seranthony Dominguez to the Orioles for Hays); he was oft-injured and gave them -0.4 WAR in 22 games. As for Pereira, they already have outfielders that can hit .230 - I don't see that meeting their needs for an upgrade. Perhaps he'd have more value if he produces for awhile at the Major League level first.

I want Shea Langoliers and I'm willing to trade Teel as part of a package for him I doubt you could use him as the main piece with all these injuries, but Shea has 3 more full seasons of cheap control so you're getting a beast that's locked up for a few more years question is, do you give up legit pieces like Teel or Bonemer for a legit catcher or do you go after a SP Probably SP, but man I want Langoliers on this team

lol what does this even mean? We aren’t allowed to talk about him because he is trying to get healthy? Sports media is supposed to stop doing their jobs? Us talking about him doesn’t make a difference

This caught my attention, holy cow what a stacked lineup.

2024 was the Orioles 101-win, divisional champion season. They were already at the top of the win curve. They needed dominant starting pitching to get further in the playoffs. Over two post-seasons, they went 0-5. They were arguably in their window. 2024 was the year for the Orioles to pull the trigger. I think that year is next year for the White Sox.

Yea you are right, Teel is likely done this year, but no reason to formally shut him down. A better course would be for everyone, especially the sports media, to back off and give him all the space he needs to physically and mentally pursue his rehab. Teel thinks he can make it back in 5-8 wks instead of 6-12. So what?

I’d keep Pereira and trade Hays.

It’s amazing how many times we’ve been through this and how many times you pound your fists and refuse to listen. We lacked critical player development infrastructure when Hahn was GM both in terms equipment & technology and data & analytics. The moment Getz became GM he invested and fixed those areas. Not very hard to connect the dots here and realize that KW & Hahn were a major hindrance to be successful as the PD Director under that regime.

@tray teaching us all a lesson! Don’t argue amongst ourselves, bitches.

I didn't know the Seahawks stadium was next to the Mariners stadium, excellent photos. I guess all we can do is see what Ishbiia's next move is with the rail yard.

Agree.

Ok so tell me which one? With Austin Hays and Everson Pereira both due to be off the IL, Perez will go away. Both have no options left. Who stays and who gets traded or waived. Who is the keeper right now. Which one?

This isn't the thread about the new stadium you don't have to be a grump.