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If the idea is that Preller wants Crochet but doesn't want to give up Salas or De Vries, the Orioles would be a weird trade partner, because 1) we could just get prospects from them directly rather than making SD the middleman, 2) Elias isn't going to give up anything meaningful for 1 year of Cease if he wasn't willing to give up anything meaningful for 2 years of Cease and 3) the Orioles no longer seem to be a great fit for the Sox, the guys we were interested in last year are now accruing service time and are older and don't really fit our expected contention period (Cowser, Kjerstad etc) and/or are likely to end up at 1B (Mayo, Basallo) and the younger guys aren't really anything special so I don't see how making SD the middleman in order to send BAL prospects to CWS makes sense.

It's certainly possible it could be like last year when people tried to wait us out, but let's also keep in mind, supply has not yet dwindled in order to truly spark demand. Fried just now signed, so likely Burnes is next and once that happens, its going to be a game of musical chairs where everyone is trying frantically to decide whether to pay alot of money for SPs with question marks (Flaherty etc) or pay prospects for good pitching or get left out in the cold. The wheels are starting to turn so GMs now need to s%*# or get off the pot.

Excellent.....now we need Burnes to sign in SD or TOR.

If both Fried and Burnes go elsewhere, Getz might even be able to insist on Anthony.

Good we need Fried to NYY. Cashman has fans in pitchforks at the gate he needs to give them a shiny object to play with.

Make no mistake, this is exactly how JR wants it. You hire someone that no other self respecting organization would hire for a lateral role so you can a) lowball him on salary and b) ensure he will do exactly what he's told, because he has no other meaningful employment options unless he wants to go way down the totem pole. As JR once said, the savvy negotiator creates his own leverage. JR is an awful owner but unfortunately he's a pretty sharp guy.

Can't Jerry have him work with some professional in the field of public speaking (Toastmasters) so he can sound a little more polished? I mean this is an MLB GM. He doesn't have to sound like a lawyer like Hahn as you said but at least he should come across as not a stuttering clown. Oh wait I forgot....Jerry can't get someone who teaches public speaking skills to help him because that too would cost money. My bad what was I thinking.

What did he say?

I'm glad it's not just Getz saying there is legit interest. If they move Crochet to BOS for Mayer and Montgomery, hopefully they could move Robert to PHI for Crawford.

This was a quote from Craig Breslow on the Red Sox subreddit forum... We’ve asked a ton of our fans in terms of patience and tolerating finishes well below where the Red Sox should be. It’s time to deliver and that may mean taking a bite out of the future in order to prioritize what’s in the short term.” - Craig Breslow today There was also a seperate thread on that site where one of their writers said the only untouchables are Duran, Anthony and Campbell. Make of those two statements what you will...

More likely he isn't getting anything significant and is trying to create the impression of the opposite.

BA is not that important. For those of us not still stuck in the 50s and for those of us who dont spend most of our days yelling at kids to get off our lawn, OBP and SLG are better correlated with offensive production. And .274 isn't super great anyway, it's like a 55 hitter....far from the Mr. 3000 t-shirts your boy was wearing. Let's have him hit .315 to .320 a few years in a row and then we can talk.

IMO if BOS actually offered either Campbell/Montgomery or Mayer/Montgomery I bet a deal would be done by now. I suspect they are trying to see first if they can outbid NYY for Fried. If I were to guess, I bet BOS is offering something like Abreu, Montgomery and Arias. Getz has said I don't want MLB players and I want one of your top 4 as the top piece and BOS is determining whether they will pay cash for a SP or prospects.

It depends on the whole package involved from BOS and PHI. Yes Mayer is ofcourse better than Miller but he has injury issues etc. Crawford is a better 2nd piece than Montgomery.

His WRC+ at A+ was 128 which is good for a 20 year old and Law said he should stick at SS which is also a big deal because we're gonna need someone who can actually stick at SS.

That would be fine. We know Crawford is coming back. The question is will PHI also part with Miller or is Getz going to be satisfied with Caba as the other piece. If he gets back Miller and Crawford it will be a job well done.

It would be hard to say no to this even with Mayers injury issues. That would be two very good players hopefully you can keep Mayer healthy. Two big time lefty bats (Montgomery is technically switch but much better from left side).

Good

Yep. Yankees system sucks.

I know... I was being sarcastic and mocking JR. This ownership and FO could f*** up a wet dream....and with not even that much effort.

I read that it looks like it will be the Mets I hope Boston doesn't put all of its money into Fried. I'm hoping that NYY quickly pivots to Fried to calm the fanbase after their little brother just dick punched them. NYY will outbid BOS imo.

Bro....we tried.. we even put his name and number on the scoreboard in the stadium. Im sure if it would have helped we could have put some of his scrub buddies on the friends and family plan like we did with Alonso and Jay. Not sure what else that dude could have even wanted... /s

What ace? I meant Aidan Miller.

Mayer is very talented but his BABIP fueled performance last year and injuries are scary. Still....I bet we wouldn't say no to Mayer and Montgomery, unless PHI offered Miller and Crawford.

Yeah if Soto goes to BOS they will have an OF glut for sure and Braden Montgomery will be a trade piece.