SoCalChiSox

Ugh...

Nope as in Nightengale is wrong?

Possibly yeah but if Jerry is still the general partner he still has the control regardless of the share count of the limited partners.

Lol @ Great Tax Shelter in the Sky

I thought they were out because they are now financially tapped out and signed a cheaper replacement?

Then why would Ishbia buy in, if someone else has an absolute majority, they are ok with the general partner making decisions and the general partner passes away, then Hobson has has control. I don't think Ishbia wants someone looking over his shoulder after JR passes. I'd be surprised if Hobson has an absolute majority....maybe plurality.

This reminds me of how like 8 different Presidential administrations in a row kept saying Castro can't survive forever and he just outlasted administration after administration.

I haven't seen @Chicago White Sox this excited since we traded for Chase Meidroth.

Yeah I'd much rather give Q a shot.

That's awful. Prayers sent to Bobby Jenks

Then it might be a 3 way trade where PIT sends pitching to a third team and the third team sends us up the middle bats. They seem to be hellbent on adding a legit SS.

I doubt that's a reference to Robert because he said pitching is going the other way and right now we are looking for bats.

I'm speculating. It's clear we don't want to eat money and NYM has no issues with adding salary. They also have some prospects at the positions Getz is looking for. Those prospects have lost some shine so Getz might be able to buy low on a couple of them

Robert to the Mets soon? Jett Williams plus what else?

That game was delicious. Let me taste your tears, Kansas City! I'm looking forward to seeing who Denver can add in FA/trades and draft. Go Broncos.

You're like super awesome at trades, Chris!

They won't ask us to eat money unlike the Reds and Getz may be able to buy low on a couple prospects that fit what Getz is looking for (up the middle positions, speed/athleticism, take their walks).

I could see the Sox getting something done in ST with the Mets and Jett Williams will be the headliner along with another piece.

I dont think it's quite that good but it's in the Top 10 for sure.

If we couldn't pry Arroyo, we almost certainly will not be able to get Crawford.

This may be the real reason....JR under pressure from other partners to turn a huge profit this year regardless of gate receipts but again....we're gonna do that no matter what. Even if we pay all of Robert's salary this year whether he is on our team or not, the payroll is still abysmally low and we should still generate a massive profit for the other partners and board members. If we were talking about the difference between 50m and 125m, I could see why the other partners would pressure Jerry. We're talking about the difference between 50m and 65m. There is no way in hell no matter whatbthe attendance is and no matter what the local TV revenue is that they are going to make anything less than a huge killing even with a mid 60s payroll.

When was the last time our payroll was in the 60s?

It depends on who else they would put in the deal and how much they want us to eat. If they threw in another very good piece if we ate all the 2025 salary, then eat it. Our payroll is in the 60s, so I don't see the rationale of not eating money, EVEN IF we have sustained losses the last few years. A payroll anywhere south of 100m is guaranteed to generate huge profits pretty much no matter what...im not sure what dicking around over a 50m payroll vs 65m payroll will accomplish.

Trades don't exist in the abstract, Jimmy. If you are targeting prospects on a specific team you also have to have an appreciation of who you are dealing with and their interests and issues and look at things from their perspective and craft your proposals around that. Cincinnati has budget constraints and if we don't go into the negotiation taking that into account, then were not a serious organization. If we were halfway competent, we would eat the WHOLE 2025 salary if it meant enhancing the return. Our fucking payroll is abysmally low. If you can get Arroyo plus some other good piece too (Petty?) if you eat it all, then eat it all. Our payroll is in the 60s so who gives a f*** if we eat it? Jerry will make a killing with any payroll south of 100 and prolly even south of 150. Get your damn SS already.

Looks like they were targeting exactly who many of us were hoping for so that's good. It's frustrating that they are hung up on eating money when payroll is only in the 60 millions or so. Fucking Jerry.