SoCalChiSox

Jays system really sucks.

I bet they pivoted to Mullins cause Getz was dicking around with stupid demands.

Yeah that's the hope....or maybe a three way trade cause Preller needs to see first what we want from the 3rd team.

We just need to find some damn way to pair Clifford with him. Eat money, throw in a reliever or throw in Houser. Find some way, Chris.

@fathom, do u have any info as to what NYM has actually offered us? The Tong ask is obviously not realistic at all but I'd be interested to know what kinds of things have been offered? Are the Sox even interested in Clifford?

Holdup may be some of the big SP names haven't been moved yet so market hasn't shifted to secondary options.

There was a report I think a couple days ago suggesting the Cubs were interested. Could we get Wiggins?

Thanks for the cite on the Tong thing. I'm hoping this is just midday gamesmanship and then Getz presents his true fallback demand in the afternoon. Get your LH bat and your CF project. This isn't that hard.

NYM isn't gonna do that. Its stupid if Getz is dying on that hill. It shouldn't be hard to do a Clifford + Acuna deal if u eat some cash and throw in a reliever. There is no way we will get any of their top 5 guys. BTW I didn't see this report where is it?

Part of me still thinks this Feinsand report is a plant because we are arguing with NYM over the quality of the non Acuna piece.

He's more useful as a bridge to Braden unless someone is willing to give up a Top 10-12 player.

I continue to think Eisert will get decent value if moved.

Down to NYM or SD if the latter can acquire some interesting pieces quickly. Sox need to get Clifford.

Would Connelly Early or "The Password" be asking too much, even if you threw in a non-Taylor reliever?

If our budget for next year was 145 or hell even 135, I'd feel really good about making the playoffs. We've got alot of exciting young pre-arb players and prolly two LHP coming up at some point after they refine some things. If they got a good CF thats a reasonably good hitter, good corner OF, another solid IF bat and a solid #3 SP we could do damage. Ofcourse it will prolly be around 80m in total payroll...

They'll need to make other moves first to restock the farm.

Eisert, Sosa

So he isn't going to get moved then.

Who says no? To CWS: Josue De Paula, Kendall George To LAD: Grant Taylor

Relievers, even ones with filthy stuff have high year to year variance. If we've been offered a Top 30 overall bat for Taylor you have to take it.

Who still needs closers?

Perhaps the Padres can use some of that haul for Robert.

De Vries was moved...wow. They should think long and hard about moving Grant Taylor in this market.

I would assume that's the plan. CF and 9 hole.

Yeah we don't need 50 different catchers in the system just because Getz has a hard on for the position. If they need CF and power get both. BTV has Clifford at about 9m in SV and Acuna I think was about 6m IIRC They've got Robert at zero but the market doesn't seem to reflect that, if u assign him say 3m, and eat 5m, you are halfway there. Add Eisert and you are basically all the way there. Just fucking get it done already.