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For one year of Burnes, BAL paid the following in SV per BTV: 4m (pick), 18.9m (Hall), and 13.6m (Ortiz). Total: 36.5m Burnes value for that one year is 33.3....so BAL paid a premium of about 10% for pitching. BTV has Cease at 42m....a 10% premium would mean about 46m in SV should be the return or almost exactly Woo, Montes and Clase (49m) from SEA, hypothetically.

SEA would be giving up 49m for 42m so it's actually pretty fair given the SP premium. Clase is Robert's replacement in 25 if they move him next year and Montes could also see the big club sometime in late 25.

I dont think Colas is finished. His projection was 50 hit/60 power he can still get there, he had a bad year and wasn't ready. He needs to get out of Grifols doghouse, put in the time in AAA to work on the things Getz etc told him to work on and hopefully in a couple months we will see what he can do. I still want Montes in a SEA trade regardless of the risk. He destroyed Low A as an 18 year old (994 OPS) 3 years younger than his level. Bring me the young left handed savage with extreme power. Dude could get to the majors before the end of 2025.

If we trade with SEA, I want Lazaro Montes in the package. He could be a monster LHS in a couple years.

We need a Baghdad Scott emoji.

@caulfield12 what do you think of this move? What else do you think you guys should do before ST?

Why would we want Foscue? RH 2B that's a butcher that can only hit for avg.....what am I missing here? If they are gonna go SP plus one positional piece, it would be a disaster of biblical proportions for Getz to accept a RH hitter that is also a butcher as the position piece. If Getz is going to suddenly be OK with butchers, at least get a LHS. I mean if that's the case, they should have gotten Busch plus one of the LAD pitching prospects.

Haha nice thank God no Merrifield here

The Chiefs are a malignant and malevolent force on the same scale as Russia. They must be destroyed. If some SF DL puts on brass knuckles underneath his gloves and socks Kelce in the Adam's Apple underneath the pile, I won't cry about it. f*** em

I hope so too but there's 0% chance that happens. There is no way the league will permit SF to win. Just like last year the Eagles were kicking the s%*# out of the Chiefs and then magically the most fearsome DL in the league somehow couldn't get to a one legged Mahomes. This is no different than the WWE.

I didn't know you were a Wolverines fan...congrats Caulfield. I root for the other UM in college sports (Miami (FL)).

Both games today making me physically ill.

Sigh.....I hate the Chiefs with every fiber in my being.

Jimmy has sort of implied BAL has offered one of Cowser/Kjerstad, one of Norby/Ortiz and "more" (Povich/Mcdermott?) but Getz is insisting on Westburg as the second piece. If thats true, that's a solid and acceptable offer but you still wait to see if NYY or someone else will cave in ST before accepting it.

1 legit piece plus whatever isn't sufficient. Take him to the deadline.

IMO...if they are in fact offering one of Cowser/Kjerstad plus one of the second tier IFers and one of the two pitchers that is a good offer and ultimately should be accepted unless NYY gets desperate. I think Getz knows that BAL can't really sign anyone and Burnes isn't on the trade market so he can afford to just wait to see if NYY blinks in ST and is ultimately willing to put BOTH Jones and Hampton on the table plus a useful third piece.

Fair enough Jimmy....I will now refrain from ragging on him until we see what he can do in his first full minor league season. I'm glad he is working hard on things to get better.

I thought the writeup on Gonzalez was far more encouraging than the grades. Seems he was putting in work in the fall which is good.

RH 2B should not be the centerpiece either.

As between trade A or B what is your preference and why: A. Cease for Mayo straight up. B. Cease for Kjerstad, Norby/Ortiz and Povich/McDermott.

Eh....the concept of a RH 1B being the main compensation is still problematic to me. Anyway it's likely moot because Elias will not trade him for Cease and even if he did, it would likely be a 1 for 1 straight up trade, at most. I'd rather have Kjerstad, one of the IFers and one of pitchers rather than just Mayo and that's it anyway.

What's the point of a 70 arm if you are at 1B? I'm glad he has alot of power but he's still RH which is a problem. Kjerstad and Westburg and one of the pitchers. That's about 50m-55m in SV and that's around where Cease should be taking into account the SP premium.

But I was told we need to just accept whatever is being offered because it's not going to go up before ST. This article is correct. This is not the time to fall prey to other teams disinformation and scare tactics. Do not get weak kneed. Someone WILL pay ...good pitching that is cheap and controlled is very valuable. Westburg, Beavers and McDermott is not adequate. Warren, Lombard and a lottery ticket is awful. Gavin Stone and Diego Cartaya is crap. NO.

Takes option away from NYY and BAL. Good.

Good.