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I get it, but that assumes that a team would know ahead of time that they'll be in first place and/or won't need Cease until later in the season.

Not sure why you're leaving out June and July, but yes, having 4 months of starts of a good pitcher vs not having those 4 months of starts makes them more valuable.

I’ll save everyone the time and let you know that he was never on the Royals.

I'm so glad I'm not Getz because I have so much Cease trade talk fatigue that I'd just ask for a single crab cake in return at this point.

I'm beginning to feel that way too and I just hate taking that risk. Aside from the obvious injury risk, you basically need him to perform significantly better than 2023 to cancel out the value lost with each start he's not making for a potential trade partner. Can he do that? Of course. But it's something I'm hoping for rather than expecting.

Hi Brooks, can we do an AMA with you on here?

I know there's some logic and potential here, but as a jaded Sox fan I choose to lol that we're at the "Combine Two Guys To Make One Guy" stage of things.

Nah, he's being referred to as Madrigal 2.0 in this thread.

But anyway, I miss Benetti.

Love excusing someone for being a shitty person in the name of "cancel culture is bad."

Anyone know if the new fountains at the park will be in both left and right field or just right field?

As someone who actually likes the O’s and has enjoyed watching their rise while waiting out this absolute shitshow that is the White Sox, I sure hope the bar is a little higher than a Kyle Gibson upgrade.

Wait, are you actually saying that your recent track record of success with prospects doesn’t make you more optimistic about others in your system than fans of other teams would be? I literally don’t know what you’re LOL’ing about here. I’d feel the same if I were an O’s fan.

Which illustrates a fundamental difference as we argue over the value of some of these prospects. We’re scarred by poor development and failed prospects, while O’s fans are wearing rose colored glasses with their Adley and Gunnar jerseys. I get the thinking on both sides.

You can’t possibly think that’s how any of us feel, right? No one hates the Sox more than Sox fans.

Everyone’s forgetting that we also need a new play-by-play announcer to replace Benetti to come back in any Cease trade.

Nah he’s still too busy pointing at the 2015 Royals and the 2005 White Sox. He doesn’t strike me as a logical timeline sort of guy. More of a lightning in a bottle and pixie dust guy. So for all we know he does prefer someone like Ortiz, whether it makes sense to the rest of us or not.

Pro Tip: Start reading Sports Guy's posts as if he actually is Elias and is just talking in third person. It at least makes the thread more entertaining.

The last 80 billion pages of this thread could have just been replaced with this. But then you have comments like this that make it go 80 billion more. (Middle ground is not inevitable. You're discounting the possibility of either side reaching a level of desperation that their hand feels forced to make a trade.)

Easy there Seinfeld, that's a sore subject round these parts.

Now this thread is getting somewhere

There's really nothing to back this up, though, so it's one of those philosophies that you can spin however you want. Minnesota and Tampa's good pitching didn't get them very far in the playoffs. You build the best roster you can with the resources you have available and hope for a hot stretch in the playoffs. I think it'd be stupid for the O's not to upgrade their rotation, but I also wouldn't assume an early exit if they didn't.

Another good clubhouse guy to help do Grifol's job for him.

I mean, Bradish IS good. But it's incredibly foolish of them to not get a TOR arm. Both can be true.

Yeah, Cease interest or not, it would've been nice to see them push more chips in.