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I loved your post especially this part. I think relievers outside of closers are held to a different standard. I am of the opinion Dotel and Liney have sucked and Thornton has his good and bad nights as well. I do not agree with Hawk that Thornton was an all star who got screwed. Carrasco has been good for what a team should expect him to do. That new lefty sucks, thankfully I forgot his name. And the guy we got for Allen ... the verdict is still out, but he has not been any better than average. I realize most bullpens are average to s***ty and ours is the same IMO. Except for Bobby; still pretty darn good. And I'm glad we have Thornton, but the rest of them ... see ya later.

Lexi just doesn't seem right at ss in my opinion. Not good enough. Too volatile a player.

Alexei never should have been moved. He should have sat at second base the next 15 years.

Ok. • Below average defense. I guess some might say average. I'd say below average. • Unreliable middle relief, i.e. set up men. • Slow on basepaths still. • Don't have the "it" factor to rally late or beat bad teams in an attempt to get 10 over .500 which would win this division. • 3 good starting pitchers, though what is up with Mark since the perfect game?; Jose and No. 5 very poor.

Sorry if I misinterpreted. If I could summarize most of the things I've read, I'd say most realize we are a severely flawed team. I thought that was a correct interpretation. My bad if I am wrong. In the underachiever thread it was 90-20 people saying we were underachievers. I figured that it was safe to say "most" after reading that thread.

Detroit lost so we can be really really happy ... for one night at least.

I think most of us diehards on here realize we're not that good. Like somebody said beautifully, one facet of our game usually falls apart bad enough to cost us a win on a given night.

I wonder where Josh will try to resurrect his career next year. The NL somewhere? Minor trade?

Boston beat Detroit 3 of 4 very recently in Beantown. I would not expect us to do better than that and wouldn't be shocked if we dropped all four. It's pennant race time and Boston will be ready for us as they were for the Tigers.

That is true. AJP has been pretty consistent as well. It's easy to take our own for granted.

Home runs and good starting pitching and closer work. That's the victory formula we've known so long when we win games on the South Side. Jose with the shocking (to me) performance. We really needed a sweep of this homestand. We're playing two pathetic teams and allegedly are in a pennant race.

What did you say a couple nights earlier when he hit the bomb? And he won that other game recently with his bat. He's still young. Also most players round base on those pop ups that never get dropped. The third base coach should have been the goat. Anybody with half a brain knows Quentin is dead out on that play. Carlos should have reamed him behind closed doors for throwing him out to dry. We need a third base coach with a brain some year. Harold maybe???

Because it would be a direct slam at his boss, KW, who provided him nothing but a guy like Wise for the roster. I'm more surprised at the Fields comment. He was supposed to be something if you read all the comments during the winter. And he's just another guy who can't hit.

Freddy had a good couple innings but many of his pitches were meatballs. One more start would be fair to him.

What round pick was Fields? Another waste.

Can't argue with that. In a horrible division with our team seemingly having a lot of talent, we have just enough holes to make us a .500 team. I wish baseball would stop paying middle relievers five to seven million dollars a year when most of them suck.

We need him and fast. Rios has been OK but hasn't exactly cured us of our .500itis.

I can't argue. He will be lit up at Fenway. Ugly times ahead.

Tonight's one runner was one of the worst. Just cause we led a horrific baseball team 4-1. At that point we did it in exciting fashion. Then ... nothing.

I don't think it's alarmist to say we're about done. We're not going to do much on that road trip. .500 would be a miracle.

That was horrible. A good 15 year old player could have thrown him out at the plate. Stupid. He had all the momentum on a shallow fly ball. s*** that play sucked!

Some of us don't care that much about the Bears. Cutler doesn't make me feel better after this s*** game.

The Royals suck; Cleveland sucks. Barring a miracle both beat us 2-3 in the Cell.

Let the flaming begin. Can't sugarcoast that disaster.

fivehundred (.500) is a dirty word to me.