The Beast

I’m going to the game on Saturday night for my birthday celebration. I paid $56 per seat in the lower bowl in the infield since I had 17 people going. Maybe I’ll start the game thread to bring good luck and end the streak?

Do we think he’s a great coach? Is he worth keeping?

I guess I’m fine that they made the move they did. Carter might not be the best fit in terms of culture even if he’s great on the field. Hopefully it doesn’t come back to bite the Bears. At least Carter isn't a Lion. Van Ness May sack and gyrate at Fields like Raji did to Cutler. My guess is they go defensive end next time. Wright is fine, I am glad they didn’t risk the pick on Skoronski. I didn’t see the Texans trade up to number three and I wonder if they dealt their first round pick in 2024 or if they traded the Browns 2024 first round pick.

Dylan Cease sucks because he can’t use the sticky stuff??

No or not sure, but it’s the White Sox we are talking about.

“We’re gonna be a kick your ass every night kind of team.”

Realistically, any sort of firing would happen in the offseason and would come in the form of kicking Hahn upstairs and having Williams retire. Then the new GM comes in and keeps Grifol on for the remainder of his contract. If they don’t do it this offseason then they’ll tie Hahn to Grifol’s deal and make them lame ducks. With that said, Hahn is getting up there with his tenure relative to the other White Sox GMs. And his winning percentage is underperforming compared to others (yeah I know about the rebuild years). So it might be time for a change soon anyway based on historical norms.

We are all assuming Hahn will be fired after this season, but deep down does anyone truly believe it will happen?

I just wondered if it was another fan decision or if they have a track record for doing so.

Robert. Moncada has been disappointing for some time but I have always thought Robert was the most talented.

Do you guys think it is actually possible that they would fire anyone right now?

I bet you they do and will do so when the game is still in reach.

Damn, Sox pitchers look like Todd Ritchie, Jaime Navarro and wild Damaso Marte.

I haven’t boycotted, but I did go to fewer games than I used to over the past few years. I know I went to two last year - my birthday and a game they won in August against the Astros. If they are losing revenue or attendance year over year I would think they would have to either shed payroll or make a change in the FO. Supporters of Hahn? I mean I’ll give the team more time, but the FO and ownership as a whole is who I’m frustrated with.

Okay, I don’t disagree. But what else will you do about it then analyze it to death? How will your support of this team change so it hits JR’s pocket book?

I’ll have to mess around with filters to figure out their records for specific time periods in the season. I haven’t used that site for team stats, only players.

I was looking for that data, where did you find it?

It’s one thing to hope for positive changes or discuss what people want to see done to the team. It’s another thing to just spew the same s%*# over and over about Hahn and just add pages to a Fire Rick Hahn thread. Like I said, people should do something more concrete to show their dissatisfaction with the team and organization. Write letters. Get cheap tickets in the upper deck and raise the banners or write out signs and try and get captured on TV or social media. Don’t get tickets. Don’t buy memorabilia. Etc. Anything seems more productive than writing negative posts that the FO and ownership likely doesn’t read.

Fine, but it’s a lazy thing to do to just use the same recycled crap to go after a GM who isn’t getting fired.

If their pitching wasn’t as bad and the hitting was more clutch, this would be a better team. It seems like not doing either of those things like they used to make weaknesses more glaring. I need more data from this year to put my finger on what needs to change with the roster. It makes me wonder if Grifol will get any say in what he needs to change for next year.

I agree with the first sentence, but why is everyone so hung up on that stupid quote? It was clearly cocky GM bullshit then like it is now.

This is a great post. Thank you for sharing. I would be glad to have a clean slate when this team is sold, assuming Michael Reinsdorf will sell the team.

People gave KW a hard time for different reasons. The phrase that was used to describe him was something like “I can’t spend $1.00 if I only have $0.50.” He would seem to get his players late. And he always seem to need to trade the farm system to get pitchers (Wells, Ritchie) and have to buy low and short term on free agents. While Hahn has had bad free agent signings, JR is pulling the budget strings. He did the same thing to KW.

Why would Brooks Boyer not be able to penetrate the market? Do you think he’s incapable of getting the next generation of fans grown and involved? Budget cuts seem more likely to me as well as automation.

Maybe there is some optimism for a minute on Soxtalk before the negativity fills up the thread like a fart in a stuffy room.