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QUOTE (flavum @ May 21, 2011 -> 09:38 AM) Dunn DH, Konerko DH

Beckham.

Konerko.

Man.. we still say his sayings at work me and a couple of co-workers since I started there back in October. RIP Macho Man.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ May 20, 2011 -> 02:04 PM) This little gem is from LakersGround, debating who's the GOAT, MJ or Kobe, enjoy... Lakeshow818 wrote: Fortunately, other Laker fans took him to task for this bit of idiocy, lol Jesus... QUOTE (T R U @ May 20, 2011 -> 02:29 PM) lol Kobe.. its MJ and its not close It isn't really. PLAYOFFS 1. Michael Jordan* 28.59 2. George Mikan* 28.51 3. LeBron James 27.08 4. Shaquille O'Neal 26.16 5. Tim Duncan 25.74 6. Hakeem Olajuwon* 25.69 7. Tracy McGrady 24.66 8. Dirk Nowitzki 24.66 9. Charles Barkley* 24.18 10. Dwyane Wade 24.04 REGULAR SEASON http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/per_career.html 1. Michael Jordan* 27.91 2. LeBron James 26.91 3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59 4. David Robinson* 26.18 5. Wilt Chamberlain* 26.13 6. Dwyane Wade 25.67 7. Bob Pettit* 25.37 8. Tim Duncan 25.02 9. Neil Johnston* 24.72 10. Charles Barkley* 24.63 11. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 24.58 12. Magic Johnson* 24.11 MJ led in Playoff Win Shares 7 times (second was Russell at 5 times) The most for any player. http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ws_career_p.html 1. Michael Jordan* 39.76 2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 35.56 3. Magic Johnson* 32.63 4. Wilt Chamberlain* 31.46 5. Shaquille O'Neal 31.08 6. Tim Duncan 28.61 7. Bill Russell* 27.76 8. Julius Erving* 26.89 9. Jerry West* 26.75 10. Kobe Bryant 26.12 MJ led in Season Win Shares 9 times (Wilt and Kareem as well led in it 9 times) The most for any player. MJ led in Playoff Offensive Win Shares 7 times (Jerry West 6 times, Magic 4 times) The most for any player. MJ led in Offensive Win Shares 8 times (second was Kareem at 6 times) The most for any player. Kareem led in Playoff PER 7 times. (MJ 6 times, though he led in it in 1986 with a 30 PER, so really 7 times and Wilt 6 times) Kareem led in Win Shares Per 48 Minutes 9 times. (MJ 8 times and Wilt 8 times) 1. Michael Jordan* 0.2505 2. David Robinson* 0.2502 3. Wilt Chamberlain* 0.2480 4. Neil Johnston* 0.2413 5. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 0.2284 6. Magic Johnson* 0.2249 7. LeBron James 0.2242 8. Tim Duncan 0.2190 9. Manu Ginobili 0.2167 10. Charles Barkley* 0.2163 MJ and Kareem both led in Win Shares per 48 Minutes in the playoffs 5 times, the most for any Player. http://www.basketball-reference.com/leader...8_career_p.html 1. Michael Jordan* 0.2553 2. George Mikan* 0.2541 3. LeBron James 0.2287 4. Magic Johnson* 0.2078 5. Dirk Nowitzki 0.2059 6. Tim Duncan 0.2037 7. Jerry West* 0.2031 8. Wilt Chamberlain* 0.1998 9. David Robinson* 0.1992 MJ has 6 rings, he won the Finals MVP EVERY time...Kobe has 2 Finals MVP's.. League MVPs MJ- 5 Kobe-1 Scoring Titles MJ- 10 Kobe- 2 Times leading league in PER MJ- 7 Times Kobe- 0 times Times being Top 3 in Win shares Per 48 MJ- 8 times Kobe- 0 times Win Shares per 48 MJ- 0.255 Kobe- 0.161 Career PER MJ- 27.9 (Ranks #1 ALL TIME) Kobe 23.6 (Ranks #17 ALL TIME) Career win shares per 48 MJ- 0.251 (Ranks #1 ALL TIME) Kobe- 0.188 (Ranks #26 ALL TIME) Kobe and Jordan will always be compared because they both are about the same height, same build, similar style game and were coached by Phil Jackson. Both are explosive, great athleticism and were big time assassins. The big difference is the overall productivity of the two. Kobe for instance, in NONE of the seasons he won titles has led his own team in win shares on the season. Now that doesn't mean he wasn't the best, but when you are comparing someone to another all time great that always led his (or their) team(s) in overall production and most of the time the league that means a lot. Gasol led the team in Win Shares and PER in the season and led the entire playoffs in Win Shares in 2010. The Gasol vs Kobe comparison is like the Nash vs Amar'e one in 2005. Amar'e outproduced Nash, but Nash was the team's better player. Same thing with Gasol and Kobe. Difference here is this doesn't help Kobe's case when dealing with MJ, simply because whenever MJ won and whenever he was on the Bulls, he led the team in PER and Win Shares in both the season and playoffs. It's hard to compare Kobe to MJ, simply because not only does MJ have better numbers, but he has more accolades and is one of the top 4 most productive players ever. Not to mention he won all his titles as the best player in the NBA with hardly any debate about it. Another thing that means a lot is the franchises they went to. Kobe went to one of the most successful franchises in not only NBA History but sports history. Lakers had already won 11 titles and had been to 24 finals before Kobe ever even came to the franchise. Jordan went to a franchise that had done absolutely jack s***. Had 0 finals appearances and of course no titles and turned that franchise into a dynasty and one of the best in sports history. The Bulls were not a winning organization until MJ came along. Kobe overall has a "chance" to be a top 5 player of all time, but he won't catch someone like MJ. His prime was not good enough.

QUOTE (danman31 @ May 21, 2011 -> 01:09 AM) Brandon Short is on a 13-game hit streak. Rebounding from a slow start. Last 10 games: .404/.429/.660/1.088 Ross Wilson is almost as hot in Kanny. .378/.442/.486/.928

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 20, 2011 -> 08:07 AM) Also encouraging last night was seeing Chris Sale hitting 97 consistently last night. That was as hard as he has thrown all year. Well how bout that. Were a month and a half into the season and a pitcher is throwing harder than he did in April.. Shocking! That was more of a shot at the gloom and doom posters who always bring up velocity in early April.

QUOTE (T R U @ May 20, 2011 -> 02:23 AM) Garlands a stud if were going by how he looks I've give you some attention on this post Carl. Nicely done.

QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ May 19, 2011 -> 01:20 PM) I'll be 61 July 5th. Christ almighty! Tex is just a young whippersnapper, by crackie. I believe you are the oldest if memory serves. My boy Rooftop Shots is up there as well. QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ May 19, 2011 -> 03:40 PM) I think Quinarvy is pretty young if i remember that right. I believe he is the youngest. For a while, I remember Willie (along with Cubssuck1) was the youngest back in the day. I was 17 when I started posting here and wasn't even close to the youngest at the time. (few guys were 14-15) Those were the good ol' days.

King Kong.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 20, 2011 -> 02:28 AM) Margarita is a tequila and lime drink, though several people like to ruin it with strawberry or watermelon or blue s***. Margherita is a term used to describe a combination of mozzarella, tomato, and basil (and sometimes feta), usually on pizza. You are seriously correcting someone over, what I consider, a p**** drink? God damn your ass is going on my ignore feature.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 19, 2011 -> 06:11 PM) Brian never posts in PHT. That's pretty much why he goes unnoticed. Kyle and Greasywheels are in the same boat. All three are some of the best posters around. Oh I notice kyyle and my boy greasy though. Greasy is definitely one of the best and most underrated.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 19, 2011 -> 02:49 PM) I hope he likes Switzerland Great news, deal is worth $8 million total. Solid young goalie for a good price, can't complain. 2.67 mil cap hit. Alittle higher than I'm sure most thought, but definitely nice to have a steady goaltender in the pipes.

Just a great start so far for fathom's boy Ross Wilson.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 19, 2011 -> 09:04 AM) Bieksa with the Gordie Howe hat trick last night. Marleau never really stood a chance, and it's looking like neither do the Sharks. It seems that the Hawks were probably the best team to knock out Vancouver ironically enough. Gonna make me sick to my stomach to see that jag of an organization hoist the cup. I still think Boston is the only team that can beat them as far as whose left right now.

I'll say this about Haslem. I didn't see the game (work) so I really can't go after the discussion, but looking at the stats, the Bulls had 0 offensive rebounds when he was on the court. That has got to change.

TCQ.

I can see two different types of "ignore" posters. One who just rambles (as TRU alluded to) but at times has a fair point or one who just post their say, but really offers nothing more to the board (won't bring your I.Q. down or this board's quality down in any convo.. sports, politics, etc., but won't bring it up either) and is just your "average guy" no more, no less. The only thing I'll say is, IMO, Brian has got to be the quietest 20K poster on this site. It seems he is never noticed even with all those post and being a regular, at least to me observing. (hell I still see YASNY noticed, and he posts like once every 3-4 weeks now-a-days) He's not ignored in a bad way, but ignored as in he really doesn't stand out on his style of posting as the others here, even with solid points. Well you don't have to worry anymore Brian... I just noticed you.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ May 18, 2011 -> 03:36 PM) JM: With Jordan Danks, the two biggest knocks have been that he doesn't hit for enough power as his frame suggested and that he struck out too much. In the past three weeks, his power exploded and he hasn't struck out that much. Is the improved power and contact here to stay or is he on a hot streak and you're expecting some sort of regression? BB: Jordan Danks looks better than I've ever seen him. He looks great. I was just in Charlotte. He looks better than anytime I've ever seen him. He was one of the crown jewels in the system. And for whatever reason, and I've got my opinions on it, he got way too much coaching in the winter and he just kept changing his approach and his set up and he didn't look like he had a feel for his own particular swing. About a month or three weeks ago, he basically went "The hell with all this stuff" and just went after it and that's the kind of player he is. He's just very instinctive and he looks really good. When kids go through this kind of bad period, it affects their whole life almost. Their dream is to reach the big leagues and they can feel it just kind of slipping away and you could see the change in him. Now he just seems more getting after it. So many of our kids, when they get started they get coaching when they're seven or eight years old and a lot of these kids don't do anything unless the coach tells them to do this or do that. Our biggest issue sometimes is to get them to play a little crazy to get them away from the analytical process that goes on in their head. With Jordan, he's pretty much simplified (it). It's not coaching, it's not anything, it's just you've gotta get after it now. Forget about all this other crap you've been doing, just get after it. JS: I had the chance to talk with Tyler Flowers last year just after his May slump ended and it seems like he was maybe the product of getting too much coaching where he told me he was trying to pull it where his swing was a lot more conducive to driving the ball to the gaps. Did you see any change in him this year in just trying to get back to what he's best at? BB: He's trying to get there. He hasn't made the progress that Danks has, but he's getting there. His set up is more balanced, he's starting to buy into what we've talked about the last couple years. He's very similar to a lot of our kids. I think they get proper coaching, I just think they get too much of it. And the terminology is different so it kind of conflicts with what you're hearing. I saw him last night and he swung the bat decent last night, and we've got high hopes for him as well. I figured as much.

Rienzo with the sexy K/9 numbers but he is walking alot of hitters (over 4 BB/9) as well. Reminds me alot of Neal Cotts (as far as those numbers) when he was in Birmingham.

I'll wait till he does this for a few more starts for me to give him the "JFP" treatment, but this is a very good start.

I will be there Sunday with my co-workers. If I see a group of uz there, perhaps I will grace you with my presence.. but perhaps not.

King Kong.

On another note, Brian McCann did something that hasn't been done in 62 years.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 17, 2011 -> 09:32 PM) Dirk is good. By far the best 7 foot shooter in NBA history. Just ungodly how pretty his shot is and so accurate.