GoodAsGould

Well still a lot of game left but this is not going well. Why is it that a twins offense that has trouble vs the rest of league always seems to have success vs us. Just about all of Masset's earned runs have come against the twins and now both of Danks bad starts are vs the twins.

This ump today has been brutal. I hope he gets shown a video of all the obvious calls he missed and this game isnt even halfway over.

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Jun 9, 2008 -> 12:19 PM) 1-2-3 in the 1st. Is the first time Sox are seeing Perkins? First time they seen him starting, have seen him in bullpen where he has been relatively successful vs us I think. Probably as a starter he has 1-2 more pitches the sox havent seen.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 9, 2008 -> 10:43 AM) That Gomez kid is going to haunt us for a long time instead... Not to the extent that Santana did lol, also Gomez still has a little ways to go. He has created too many outs on the basepaths and has some holes in that swing.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Jun 9, 2008 -> 05:08 AM) That's why Jenks was called that. He didn't have the attitude and work ethic to back up his talent. It's the same thing they said about Contreras after he started getting killed in New York out of Cuba. He still had the arm but people claimed he was a bust signing. Ditto Floyd, as his case was all mental too. And Thornton. I just have to wonder how much money Coop has saved the Sox organization. Whatever he makes he should get more. If the Sox had to sign free agents every time they needed to get the type of production they've gotten from a Coop reclamation project they'd have never won a damn thing. Its totally different situations lol, Floyd and Contreras werent producing and Coop came in and figured out their problems. Jenks was actually producing on the field it was just his actions off that were a problem that Coop had nothing to do with, youn dont get a callup from double A to the majors and step into the closers role if your struggling. But whatever the case back to Coop appreciation.

Dusty Baker and Jerry Manuel

Only thing wrong with your thing is that Jenks was never really a bust, his arm was never the problem it was his actions that led to him being cut. But yes, Coop obviously knows what he is doing and the cutter is definitely the pitch he knows best.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 8, 2008 -> 09:36 AM) It interesting because EVERY quote I have heard from the players, coaches, and management have all said that Walker isn't the problem. Even guys like Konerko have talked about how valuable Walker is to them. Its people on the outside who are blaming Walk. Thats not really fair to say. Whenever a manager or hitting coach/pitching coach gets fired 9 times out of 10 the players will say it wasnt their fault. Obviously these guys have built up a good relationship with Walker over the years and are going to stick behind him no matter what. Im not saying we need to fire Walker but if this offense burst turns to be a fluke and we go back to one of the worse offenses in baseball... someone needs to be blamed.

Well the way I see it is our left side of the infield is gone next year. So unless we trade him that gives the 3B gig to Fields and have Alexi slide over to SS. That leaves a spot open at 2B for Richar/Getz and whoever loses can be utility guy.

Just hope this offense lasts, obviously wont be as good during this win streak but just as long as no more shutouts and 1-2 run games.

In terms of Richar and Getz I wouldnt be apposed to both of them making the big league team and the best man winning. I know both are capable of playing 2B/SS dont know if one of them are able to play 3B but if Pablo can do it anyone can?

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 7, 2008 -> 02:36 PM) could someone explain exactly what BABIP is? Pretty sure its batting average of balls hit in play.

Considering these are all guys most people have never heard of.... I really hope scouts get fired if they dont turn out.

I dont know how I feel about the pick, on one hand it seems Beckham is comparable to Troy Tulowitzki and we all saw the impact he had on the Rockies last year... on the other hand his ceiling just does not seem that high to me which is a little dissapointing. In the end I dont know enough about college baseball and what not to really fully comment on the pick.

I wouldnt mind doing a trade that would land us Wade and Beasley instead of Rose.... but to give up the draft pick without getting theirs to me is a no go.

I dont know why, I had all 4 removed and it was definitely no problem at all. Infact, like Ive said before I went and got some tacobell on way home.

Would I be crazy in saying Sammy Sosa probably deserves to be in the top18 based off his career in Chicago, he has fallen off greatly with fans now but during his day he was damn good, 600 HR's.

Another reason why Sears will be out of business in 2-3 years. Woodfield Mall closes at 6, Sears stays open to 9. Of course those 3 hours practically 0 customers came into the stores and all I did was watch the Ninja Turtles movie and play the ps2 we have on display.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ May 26, 2008 -> 09:31 PM) Yeah, it's kinda like blaming Ozzie for BA's inability to put down a squeeze bunt. Completely different, when all you need is a sac fly or hell even a hit.. why call a suicide squeeze especially involving a player not known for bunting.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 24, 2008 -> 06:38 AM) The same crap happened with Tyson when he was here. Not really, Tyson was benched the next day because he would commit 3 fouls in his first 5 minutes in the game. Tyrus Thomas has some of the same problems but not as much.

QUOTE (shipps @ May 24, 2008 -> 07:28 AM) Yes he is and Iam sure Texas would love to have that trade back.I dont care how well Hamilton is doing,Texas needed to turn their pitching around and could have had a great start to doing that with Volquez. I dont know about that, Volquez still has control issues at some point this season he can very easily explode. Hamilton on the otherhand is going to be a beast at the plate as long as he stays healthy, he might just be the most talented player in the majors right now.

well, we will just have to agree to disagree, Im not debating the pick.. I actually wanted to keep Aldridge and was pissed initialy. I just think that Tyrus has skills/athletiscm to excell in this league and a pg like Derek Rose is going to up his game immensely. I really think if we can add Redd to this team that will be enough to make us an instant playoff team and depending on how Rose is a pretty good one. Ideally id want to lose Hinrich/Gordon for Redd and maybe a future pick.. not sure what it would take. But as long as we keep Rose, Deng, and Tyrus I think I would trade whoever. Redd would be the consistent scorer that we lacked with Gordon who was hot one night worthless next and Deng would excel in the secondary role.

quit slurping Chandler, yes he was a better defender but he is way more ineffective offensively than Tyrus. Without Paul he would avg. 5 ppg. Also have you considered most of the time when called for goaltending the likelyhood of that ball going in anyways was pretty high. With a guy like Rose leading the offense Tyrus is prob going to avg. more points just next year more than Chandler ever did. I used to be a big Chandler fan but between you and Hammer im starting to dislike him. One would think he was the greatest thing on Earth with the amount of love he gets. Also, Chandler was avg. 5 points a game his last season with the bulls so dont know where you were going with that, the only reason we struggled without him was because we had nobody competent behind him to play. Chandlers only real solid year was the 04-05 one but if given the playing time I have no doubts that Tyrus can match or top his point output and block output he had that year. Maybe not the 10 boards but around 7-8 isnt out of the question.

the first year we might be a poor man's version while Rose adjusts to NBA life, but in long term he has a higher ceiling. I compared West and Deng only because they would both be guys who games are greatly enhanced by a PG and prob have similar stat lines. Michael Redd is better than Peja so in that comparison we are coming off ahead and you are way too tough on Tyrus. How effective was Chandler on the Bulls..... Tyrus has more offensive potential and defense is work in progress, already has great help D with the blocks and whatnot.

Id like to keep Tyrus if possible, think he would be a good fit with Derrek Rose. But if there is any chance we can get Michael Redd than I am all for it. We can kind of be in the mold of the Hornets. Rose = Paul, Redd = Peja, Deng = West, and Tyrus = Chandler.