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The heavy air should help Gavin's curve...and beat up the catcher in the process. GO YOU WHITE SOX!

Wasn't the Ritchie trade pre-Kenny? Also, Hudson just moved to a more pitcher-friendly league and they haven't seen him before. Remember the end of last year...he pitched pretty well for us, too. Let him go 'round once and see what happens after that.

QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 02:50 PM) A link to the CBA is here: http://www.nhlpa.com/About-Us/CBA/ Article 17 (page 93) sets out the grievance procedure, and states that a grievance arising under the CBA or any Standard Player Contract has to be filed by the league or the union within 60 days. At this point, over a year later, the league can "investigate" the Hossa contract all it wants, but I don't believe it can be legally voided. Any action taken as a result of this "investigation" could only apply to new contracts going forward. And honestly, isn't this the job of agents and GMs? Trying to find loopholes in the CBA...make it work. Then in the next CBA, they try to close the loopholes.

Not to mention if the NHL vacated the title...it would be of an Original Six team. The NHL is just beginning to creep back into the national picture. As was said previously, this would ruin the league. And it would go to court before anything truly happened.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 12:37 PM) Hawks could be so f***ed. Supposedly, the NHL has the power to cancel those deals, and assign cap hits to the yearly amount they make. IE, they could cancel the Hossa deal, and give the Hawks a 5 million cap hit to boot so they cannot sign him. If this happens, f*** the world. As I and you said before, if they cancelled any of the previous ok'd deals, they would have a huge fight on their hands with the NHLPA. i could see it going to court, especially Hossa's since he's already played a year. The NHL has better footing with Luongo, Pronger and Savard, but they also OK'd those deals too, they just haven't played under them. But if it went to court, I can't imagine any judge siding with the NHL on Hossa's contract.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 11:11 AM) Interesting. I'm pretty sure the long, cap circumventing contracts of Zetterburg and Franzen on Detroit are also ones that have been played under for a year like Hossa, so I don't think they could touch those since it's too late now. You bring up an interesting point on Luongo, Pronger, and Savard though since those are extensions that haven't started yet. I believe they all start this season though, so if the NHL wants to go after those deals, they'd better move quickly. Of course...if the NHL already OK'd those three deals, I think the NHLPA would fight tooth and nail to keep those contracts in place.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 10:35 AM) I'm interested to see if this has any sort of effect beyond just Kovalchuk, and am mildly surprised the arbitrator sided with the NHL. From EJ Hradek of ESPN: The only thing is...Hossa has actually played under his contract, so I can't imagine the NHL would be able to do anything about that one. Luongo, Pronger and Savard on the other hand....

Up next: Julio Ramirez.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Jul 12, 2010 -> 01:49 PM) I liked Hawk in the '80s and early '90s. But he's become really self-indulgent and his shtick has been stretched too far over the past decade or so. He's basically in post-stroke Harry Caray territory now: Not worth a whole lot in the booth anymore, but he's such an ingrained institution that showing him the door would be almost unthinkable at this point. The Sox have one great and one good color commentator (Stone and Farmer, respectively). It's too bad that they don't have the play-by-play talent to match that. Wow...that's rough, man.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 12, 2010 -> 12:58 PM) Well, if you think that award is proof that he is a better player, then there you go. I watched alot of their games that year, and Dee Brown was probably a bigger name because of his reputation, but Deron was the stud on that roster and its been proven right over the course of their bball careers. He was awesome in college. The difference is this: Dee peaked in college. Deron is peaking in the NBA. Dee was better during his entire time in college. Deron got better every year. That is all.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 12, 2010 -> 11:23 AM) To be quite fair, most of the teams on that stretch were pretty bad. But it's not like the Sox didn't face good teams, or didn't play good baseball. I don't know how you qualify a 25-5 stretch and suggest that a team isn't good. I haven't ever seen a mediocre team go 25-5 over a stretch of 30 games. If the Sox acquire a big bat, they are going to be a very scary team. Not to mention they won in many different ways. 1-0 games, 15-5 games, with homers, without homers. When are we as White Sox fans just going to embrace the fact that the Sox will never be media darlings. Will never get the respect of many other teams in the league. We are who we are...and that's a team that represents it's fans well. So screw the know-it-alls.

There are many types of announcers. Vin Scully calls the game as he sees it...and he's the best at it. No frills, no extras...just the game. Many announcers try to emulate him but just can't. Then there's the guy you want to have a beer with. The guy who is your friend sitting next to you on the couch. The guy that knows what his fan base is. That is Hawk and that is why we love him. He may not be from the South Side of Chicago, but he understands our fans. That is why he is our guy and that is why other people hate him. And you know what...I could care less what GQ thinks. And my guess is...most Chicago White Sox fans only use GQ for kindling.

Turco and Theodore are both out there, will probably get less money than Niemi is asking for and have a bigger body of work. Personally, I match Hammer, go to Niemi and sign for one year as inexpensively as I can, or go to arb with him. If he declines or the arb is too high, move on to Turco.

I luv StatManDu.

thanks boys! I called in a favor to Johnny Danks today and he won one for the Corn-er.

Nabokov to the KHL. Wonder what outrageous sum they are going to give him.

Not sure if anyone has mentioned anything about this but...how do you think the Bulls Brass (namely Reinsdorf) feels about all of this. This could be the third time the Bulls have had cap room, swung for the fences and got pretty much nothing. I'm not saying any of the previous, McGrady or Kobe, would have been good or bad for the Bulls, but they wanted those players, they pitched those players, they lost those players. Now, the Bulls might have the cap room AGAIN and get shut out of the top three. If I'm management, I forget about free agents except for filler and go draft all the way.

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 6, 2010 -> 10:00 AM) bosh will not go to Cleveland, no chance at all, he wants to play in a big market. It is rumored that Toronto GM will not work with Bosh for a sign and trade in which he will get the 6 year max deal, unless raptors get something significant in return. Cleveland can only offer Hickson. There is a great chance Bosh can go to Houston, a city to close to his home. Houston can probably offer the raptors Jordan Hill, Ariza, and Jeffries. I can see Bosh go to Miami if Wade stays there. So it's down to Houston, Miami and the Bulls for Bosh. If the bulls fail to sign the remaining big 2 I think the following scenario would still make a competitive team out of them. sign boozer for a max deal of around 14 mil. sign mike miller for 7.5 mil/year sign Matt barnes for 4 mil/year sign Jason williams for 3 mil/year Hope that Theo ratliff will sign for 1.5 mil/year the remaining spots can be veteran minimum or rookie minimum for all we care noah/ratliff boozer/taj gibson deng/james johnson miller/matt barnes rose/j will this lineup may not push us past the East, but it's a significant upgrade over last year's team, and at least we have something to show for after all the moves we've made in the past two years. Too many white people.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 1, 2010 -> 07:53 AM) Can of corn for 1 dog. I'm sorry, were you talking to me? "I tell you what [Wimpy/DJ/Stone Pony]..."

Also, more props to the Bowmans for dealing the guys out of conference. That way, we MAY only see them once or twice a year. And neither the Leafs nor the Thrashers are anywhere near the Stanley Cup Finals. Soooo...only Fraser can hurt us at this point, which I'm not all that scared of.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Jun 27, 2010 -> 05:37 PM) A manager telling the press that he wants his GM to add to his roster suggests that he lacks confidence in his players. So of course Ozzie's going to tell the media that he doesn't want to add anybody. /thread

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 13, 2010 -> 12:45 AM) This is what I meant by this winning streak happening at the worst possible time. Do you honestly believe that the team you’ve been watching for the last three months is an anomaly? That just because we can beat the s*** out of the Cubs, (a task that others teams like the Pirates have performed admirably), that we’re suddenly going to take off, make up 7.5 games on a team that’s not only better than us, but are fully capable of making the same moves to improve their team that people are suggesting in this thread? The optimist in me would love to think that is the start of that big turnaround, the realist thinks of losing to the Indians, the fact the guys like Beckham and Q show little promise at the plate, and the fact that our Manager and General Manager are locked in a power struggle as we speak, Going out and making lateral moves to make a suicide run at second place is not going to accomplish anything. Just like delaying the inevitable by keeping guys like AJ is only going to serve to set this organization up for failure now and into the future. Um...yes...? Sorry TB...had to do it.

Other summer beers I enjoy: Pyramid Hefe-weisen Boddingtons (I dont' know why...I just seem to only drink it in the summer) Hacker-Pschorr

QUOTE (Tex @ Jun 24, 2010 -> 09:12 AM) We really need to seal off the US from everything. Nothing gets in or out. . . Does that include Rick Perry's Texas of the Future?

Quickly going back to the trade with the Thrashers. This is a classic case of selling high. There is absolutely no way I would have thought the 'hawks could've gotten a 1st round pick for Big Buff. But with his big-timing the playoffs...that's just what Stan Bowman did. Great job...Buff is the hardest to replace, but they are all replaceable. Versteeg should be next to go...he is Kane-light. I love him to death, but Ladd has a better all-around game than Steeger.