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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 27, 2014 -> 05:09 PM) One thing I think Ventura has been pretty good at is trying to not put the younger kids in a position to fail. He hasn't over-exposed a guy like Nieto who could easily be putting up terrible numbers in some less optimal match ups. He also let a guy like Conor win the job with his play, and not award it to either Keppinger or Davidson just simply on pedigree or salary. He respects his veterans and let's them dictate their play, and so when he takes them out, they don't have a problem with it, because they know it is for a good reason. I think you can spin that either way with Nieto. He hasn't been put in a position to do much of anything really. He also probably saw a bit of himself in Conor, a LH who struggled when first given the chance but has a good approach and a good swing. Most people usually have some kind of failure before they succeed.

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Jul 27, 2014 -> 04:56 PM) It's not a few times....its 2-3 times per week. If it was a game or two, it could be forgiven. However, when it happens over and over again with the clown never learning a lesson, its time for him to go. Loved Robin as a player......can't stand him as a manager. Really the only way you could possibly help your own cause would be like a 2 page report of what his mistakes were and backing them up with why it was a mistake. Many times things such as bullpen moves you might consider foolish are based on how often a pitcher has been pitching . So you can't just say bring in so and so reliever every time. You'd have to back that up with games he was used the week prior and or stats against a player(s) he was brought in to face . Just ranting about it without facts is like spitting into the wind or howling at the moon.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 27, 2014 -> 09:28 AM) 4-15 with Nieto as the starter....Really don't know what to think of it. Tyler, before the last 2 weeks, has been dreadful offensively so it's not like they were missing his bat. But ya it is indeed true. Tyler is the good luck charm. So it's Robin's fault for playing Nieto so much !

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jul 27, 2014 -> 03:33 PM) This. If sin city had said Robin is just plain bad maybe there wouldn't be so many posts calling it a stupid thread. Maybe some of you can manage to read between the lines. It doesn't take a baseball genius to see Robin's been caught a few times with his pants down ala Steve Lyons , totally oblivious to what's going on around him or incapable of thinking more than a few steps ahead. Some of the best posters on here can see it and I believe they are totally objective. If sin city is trolling then I'd have to say so are the ones who will defend Robin no matter what . It's true the bullpen has been in constant flux and the bench doesn't have much flexibility so Robin is limited in his moves that will work out well thus leaving him open to more criticism. That, however, does not absolve him of doing the best he can with what he has and many of us do not see him doing that.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Jul 27, 2014 -> 04:01 PM) Sox are #2 in the AL in DH production with an .849 OPS. Add up the runs scored by having 2nd best DH setup, subtract any runs lost by being "hamstrung" by the lack of some other 25th man. Having the 2nd best DH production has nothing to do with late innings maneuverability. If we had lost a few more games due to lesser DH production so be it but that cannot be figured out the way you suggest.

QUOTE (Springfield SoxFan @ Jul 27, 2014 -> 03:28 PM) This is going to be a two horse race between the Red Sox and Yankees for his services...... I guess my earlier estimate of what he will go for was way too low considering so many teams sent people to see him. I still say even if he signs for Puig money he won't be worth it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 27, 2014 -> 02:08 PM) Thank you for a moment of sanity. And when Konerko was announced as coming back more people were for it than against it no matter how others argued that it was a mistake. It wasn't a big deal in a rebuilding year etc.

QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jul 26, 2014 -> 07:19 PM) he's been consistent -- ERA is 9.00. It's 107 in Peoria , Az . No need to keep any pitcher in very long.

Sail on Sail on Sale

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 26, 2014 -> 06:47 PM) http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?g...ox&sid=milb It's 107 degrees there. Yikes.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 26, 2014 -> 06:23 PM) Give the 9th to Thompson I assume. Is Thompson up ? Rienzo needs the work.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 26, 2014 -> 06:19 PM) Surely you can't be serious. Don't call him Shirley.

11 K 's

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 26, 2014 -> 05:39 PM) Tyler Flowers>Harry Potter Sorcerer's Spectacles > Sorcerers's Stone

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 26, 2014 -> 04:19 PM) Sale would be first White Sox pitcher since Buehrle to win 10 of his first 11 decisions in a season. Darnell's strikeout pitch is the slider. Change-up.

Tyler Flowers and Sorcerers Spectacles .. the saga continues.

AJ 3/4 against that other Chicago team today.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 26, 2014 -> 09:37 AM) I would agree with this. I don't see Avi having the .OBP/power that Maggs had. Maybe it's overlooked because he played during the steroid era, but if Avisail Garcia turned into a Ordonez we would have the best 3/4 combination in the league. I think Avi can be a 25 HR guy consistently given how big and strong he is. Once he starts getting into more hitters counts and starts looking to drive the ball more he will really blossom . He has a very strong hit tool.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 08:06 PM) More than likely right buttt you're no fun sir. If Feeky could just wear the Sorcerer's Spectacles for a moment he would understand. Everything would be clear.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 09:45 PM) He's just one of those guys that everyone gels with. I want him back so bad. Even if he's a 6 hitter, he brings a lot IMO. Soxtalk genuinely seemed depressed when Avi went down because we were all looking forward to seeing him develop. Now that we know what Abreu is capable of it's even more disheartening. Another .800-.850 OPS guy wold be huge for the Sox even if he's not left-handed . I think Avi can be that guy though the saber guys have their issues with him. He may not be that guy right away but he could be sooner rather than later. Get one more strong LH bat and put Avi in there with less pressure and this team will consistently score a lot more.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 09:20 PM) Yea, maybe 16%. He def looks like he's lost a lot of weight though. Some of that is probably by design so he doesn't get too anemic by the end of the year. Next spring though I think he can come in a little leaner. He's proven fairly durable so far and any problems he's had are with his feet so the benefits of the weight loss outweigh any loss of power -- if any, imo. What we hear some times when it come to pitcher's is repeating their ideal mechanical delivery in order to be consistent. We don't hear that so much when discussing hitters . So when a hitter changes his body I worry that all his moving parts will not flow in the same way that he is used to especially considering how good he is now. Baseball has never been a game where the most physically fit guys are the best hitters. It more a hand /eye coordination/cerebral thing when it comes to hitting. Defensively I'd say being fit matters more.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 09:24 PM) He's more of a team leader than people think. I want him back real bad. I read tonight where the Sox scored 9 runs 7 times before May 6th I think it was and only once since (tonight). When was Avi injured ? His presence in the lineup may have something to do with that . Or not , but I'll give him partial credit.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 09:24 PM) Classic !

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 09:46 AM) So no, not a classic situation. And you have zero idea what would happen in a wild card game or round. Baseball is so random, it's all about just getting to the playoffs as many times as possible to keep getting a spin of the roulette wheel. This is true. Between Bobby Cox and Joe Torre their teams went to the playoffs a combined 31 times Torre's teams won 3 WS Cox 1 . You'd think it would be more but it's genuinely a crap shoot once the playoffs start . Sure having the horses helps a lot but so does riding the hot hand.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 07:45 PM) One thing to keep in mind is that everyone is genetically predisposed to certain things...some people may function better lean and mean whereas another person May function better with a little meat on his bones, at least from a high-performance athletic level. That's what I was saying. There's just no way to know how Jose will perform at what a fitness "expert " may determine is his ideal performance weight. He might still have foot issues regardless of the weight. Could have flat feet or very high arches or bad bones in his feet or something that running and moving around will always contribute to the problem. But despite all that I hope he remains just as powerful and more nimble without the 30-40 extra pounds should he decide he wants to be at 235.