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Whoah ! Ha all of a sudden we are flush with catchers to let 2 of them go.

Mets to the Mariners rescue. Seattle shouldn't get the better part of this deal. You either let them rot with the older Cano or you come away the clear winner in the trade. Cano doesn't want to play anywhere but NY . Seattle is desperate here, Mets need more like Mallex Smith or someone else.

Seems right though I think the Sox find a way to keep Avi unless some other team is salivating to sign him. Hold onto him until you can get a guy like Brantley to replace him. Brantley is sort of like what Avi could have been, Trouble is Brantley gets injured a lot too.

That's why I'm skeptical. There's no reason to give up prospects in our top 30 especially if its the 1st trade of the off season. If its for Ryan Cordell , Delmonico, Tilson, Fulmer , Avi or one of the young relievers sure pull the trigger.

Color me skeptical.

What I said is I want the Sox to keep more talented players over the less talented. I said want the Sox to K less. i said could care less if Avi is non tendered. I said I want more guys to hit .330 . If you are confused that's on you. I think everyone here would agree with everything I said.

Lol you are unbelievable. I got snippy because you twisted what I said into something about Avi's 2018 season which I never mentioned. I don't think it's impossible to want one more talented player over those less talented and yes I want the whole team including Avi to K less. Why do I have to limit my choices to just those 2 ? I can want both .Did you become God all of a sudden saying I can only have one of those choices ?

Ergo I implied we have a team full of high K guys with low batting averages and I could care less if Avi is non tendered.i Prefer he'd stay because he has more talent than Delmoncio ,Cordell and a host of others we could get rid of just as easily as Avi ,who don't have the talent or upside of Avi and are close to the same age. I don't have an agenda I just don't see much of a reason for getting rid of a talented player when most of those he is currently competing are less talented. Pretty simple. Tender him and if you sign above replacement guys in the OF then send him packing and still owe him very little.

Who said anything about Avi's 2018 ? All I said was I wish we had more guys who put the ball in play enough to hit .330 so we can have many more arguments about inflated BABIP's. Are you having problems with reading comprehension lately ?

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I wish we had a few other guys who actually put the ball in play more often. I'd like to see more guys hit .330 and have a lot more arguments about how lucky they were.

We will find out very soon what the Sox have in mind for Avi. I know the arguments against Avi and for him. Hell, I'm the one usually sticking up for the guy. I've thought he has JD Martinez potential. When he was hot last year he was amazing. You just see the potential in bursts. I was hoping this off season he would work with the same guys that fixed JD Martinez swing but I doubt that's happening. I know if he is non tendered someone will sign him and take the chance we didn't , hoping for one season where he can put it all together. Just seems sort of wasteful to toss aside one of the most talented guys we have.

Hey Sox have to do business the same as other teams . It's standard practice now for opt outs. You either include them or get left in the dust. Why anyone would think the Sox won't do is antiquated thinking.

Maybe not imperative but could make a difference in the millions of dollars. Mariners went from $450M over 10 years to $2 billion over 17 years. That's over 4 times the money with less than 2 times the years.

Keep on believing that if you want to. Besides it won't be 2 years this will be the 3rd year of the rebuild where we should need to see significant progress on building a future team . I truly believe you're not giving anything Hahn has said about spending money when the right free agents are available any credit whatsoever. Maybe my math is different from yours and apparently I am not the only one doing the math this way.

All we can do is hope a better team brings in higher ratings. Higher ratings mean higher advertising revenue. Bad team, lower viewership equals less advertisers and less money. Higher ratings equal more viewers for advertisers fighting for space during the telecast thus leading to higher advertising contracts. That's as simply as I can put it. Not sure we can draw a correlation to other teams. I'd just say that's Ratings 101. The most glaring example of this is how much advertisers pay for Superbowl ads which gets extremely high ratings.

Is it really so hard to believe that ramping up right before the TV contract is due wasn't part of the plan all along? To go into a rebuild without that in mind would be pretty shortsighted. Maybe you just aren't giving the Sox front office enough credit while proselytizing what you personally think was the plan all along.

I keep saying that new TV contract after the 2019 season is a lot more important then most of us know. The Mariners went from a $450M 10/yr deal to $2Billion over 17 years. I don't know what the Sox are worth but it surely will go up once the new TV deal is in place. The better the team and ratings the better the new contract is , the more the team is worth when it's sold because Jerry knows the end is coming . I don't know much about this end of the business so others might make a better case. That means we have to be good this year. There will be record contracts signed with the Sox over the previous high of the $68M Abreu got. Maybe as many as 3 of them if they can. At this point in his life Reinsdorf might be more motivated to make the frabchise woth more to the other investors and his heirs than winning championships.Making the franchise worth more is certainly the closer goal.

Probably something like the NHL made a few weeks ago.

Recently Hahn has sold it as such. There's the going outside the organization comments about pitching and the we can't pick and choose when free agents become available comments. Of course they also can't pick and choose who will accept our offers. There is no doubt in my mind that changes are coming to improve the team in order to make a statement and to make the new TV contract as good as possible. How much the team improves depends on what we spend on FA's. and meaningful improvements from young guys already on the team and Eloy. The only way we suck in as bad in 2019 as we did the last 2 years is if the FO strikes out . But if they do strikeout. it will be swinging not looking.

Thank you all for your tireless work @Future Sox !?

Tallest midget award.

I don't doubt there's a possibility Robert is faster than Engel. I just don't see any proof of it using the same measuring stick. Guys like Engel and Robert need to be measured in the same way. Home to 1st times might be good to see who gets from home to 1st fastest but they do not indicate who is fastest. For example some guys are faster getting out of the box than others. Also when does the clock start on home to 1st times? Is it at contact? How is it measured ? A stop watch ? Sorry I'm jut bored ?

That would be a full second faster than the fastest guy currently in MLB when the top guys are only separated by tenths of seconds. Unless it's statcast verified that time is highly unlikely.

I think it's more of an I'm not just an OF , I'm a team player kinda thing . Yes I'm sure it's mostly aimed at the Yanks because they have always preferred a LH 1st baseman because right field is a HR hitters pasadise.