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QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 07:19 PM) Stop acting like there is some infinite number of baseball lineups the White Sox need to fill. They have one team. We have an actual mlb organization, you know. We have lots of guys that "can make the major leagues." Do you know that Anthony Swarzak was "in" the major leagues already? And dominating? But we'll keep trading good "actual" major league players for guys that can "make" the major leagues, with "ceilings" that are really high! You are one of my fav posters but you're getting bent out of shape for nothing. Swarzak pitched great and the Sox are fortunate that he did . Everyone else has pointed out the reasons so no need for me to rehash it. As far as the Sox having a multitude of guys like Cordell I just don't think it's true. There is currently no one in the OF in the upper levels who has good pop and can actually field and also has speed.That's what separates him from guys like Engel, May, Tilson, Leury who alll have speed but can't hit for power. The Sox have been targeting power hitters and OBP in the last 2 drafts. If I use my rose colored glasses and ignore that most of his power came playing in Colorado he still has more power than the current crop of upper level minor league OF's plus has the same if not better tools than the aforementioned players all vying for OF spots.

Games versus the Cubs was just strange, Engel , Moncada, Anderson all got on early where the runner and situation called for a stolen base Why does bunting take precedent over steals ? Only Anderson attempted a steal but I am not sure if it was a hit and run since there was a swing every time Anderson attempted to run.

Tanking ugly takes a holiday.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 23, 2017 -> 02:31 PM) Keep on losing. Keep on losing Sure feels like rock bottom.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 23, 2017 -> 02:10 PM) Actually not joking . I mean I know Merrifield is 28 so he came on late,but good batting average, decent pop , pretty good infielder, versatile, and great SB% . He can do everything pretty well. Of course if Moncada can do what a 9th rd pick can do only just do it much earlier and maybe with more pop I would be thrilled.

Tanking ugly !

I'd be thrilled if Moncada can turn into a Whit Merrifield type player .

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 04:13 PM) Probably not, and it would obviously be dependent on what Sox doctors thought of his back, but to me a fascinating buy low guy.There were a lot of people upset he was traded away and the Sox top OF prospects are still a way away. Throw him out there this year and next and see if he can create some value. I would think if Dodger scouts like how Swarzak is throwing, giving him up.wouldnt be painful. Usually I was the one bringing up getting TNT back. Article on CSN about him saying the best 2 months of his life was when he was brought up here. http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-white-so...&yptr=yahoo I think it makes sense reacquiring him. Dodgers sure don't need him and Swarzak would be more valuable for them as a contender. Engel could stay in CF, Trayce could move to right and Avi to left or just put Trayce in left. At least then 2/3 of the OF is good defensively.

Tanking ugly.

Well he got hurt on July 4th. Merkins tweet said it was an injury that would keep him out for a minimum of 7 days. Not sure if that meant from the date of the injury or the date he reported it (7/7). So its been 15 days since he reported it and no update or news.

QUOTE (iWin4Ron @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 12:51 PM) Why do this? Trade two OFs for Two OFs ? That doesn't make sense. I'd consider trading any/all of Melky/Avi/Swarzak for something like Carson Kelly + Oneil. Not sure HOW good Kelly is tho. He seems touted highly. Because we have to trade Melky and the Cards want hitting very badly right now. Avi is a FA in 2020 .Piscotty though older is not a free agent til 2023 and has a slightly longer track record than Avi . We trade Avi to take advantage of a breakout year and don't run the risk of him regressing. I also said Grichuk isn't necessary and Swarzak could be thrown in to get a prospect from the Cards. Right now Avi is worth more to the Cards than Piscotty is and if they want to maximize winning now then Melky and Swarzak help that. Like you said it also could be for all prospects but it never hurts to get a decent ML player once in a while who still has years of control and has shown to be a good offensive and competent defensive player. Perhaps reading the whole post you would see I was just throwing out an idea that wasn't etched in stone.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 05:12 AM) What an interesting way to look at it. Moncada is pretty much must-see TV though right? Lopez coming up will be cool as s*** too. To me it's a different kind of fun with the Sox right now. The Kids Can Play was when I first got into the Sox. I don't mind it, just try to shrug off Chris Sale at another level and I'm pretty happy. Actually I agreed with Greg to an extent. Trading our guys for the best possible return is one thing ,like the first step in a rebuild. and for that first step,we all seem pretty pleased. But the coming steps are all just as important if not more so. The talent acquired has to pan out and to high degree for the plan to progress to the next stage which is supplementing it with any missing pieces. Then comes sustaining success for as long as you can.

Players do what's comfortable for them. Some guys do it most don't. The reasons for doing it are sound just like the reasons for moving around in the batters box ( which seems like no one does unless they are bunting) .I'll miss those Ted William's references from Hawk.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 04:25 PM) Yeah, should be interesting. I hope they pull a 2015 White Sox move and go on a nice little win streak as the deadline approaches to fool their FO into thinking they are contenders. Buy buy buy!!! Melky and Avi for Grichuk and Piscotty , or are they too old at 25 and 26 ? They are having down years . Or Just Piscotty and Carson Kelly or throw Swarzak in to sweeten it.

QUOTE (mac9001 @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 01:07 PM) Tyler had a 27% K-rate in AAA and averaged higher for most of his minor league career. My trading philosophy on prospects with high K-rates is get what you can when you can get it, there's a overwhelmingly high chance this kid will never be a productive major league hitter. How do you feel about Moncada then ?

Like everyone else I'd love to see some early success for Moncada just to lessen the weight on him. Some runs would be nice too .

QUOTE (KnightsOnMintSt @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 03:51 PM) No trolling. I think that some seem to be severely undervaluing Stanton, and very much overvaluing A ball prospects. We must remember that not all these prospects will work out. Some of these guys are struggling in there respective leagues on the farm. I feel like this would be very fair considering the caliber of Stanton. Plus you would still have an OF of Robert, Stanton and Rutherford. Pitching staff of Rodon, Kopech, Lopez, Giolio and Cease. Infield of Burger, Anderson, Moncada and Abreu. Stanton is almost 28 . Robert hasn't even reached rookie ball yet and Rutherford is 20. By reducing the depth of the farm you reduce the importance of having that depth which is a hedge against prospect failures. Stanton's probably playing 1st base in 5 years. You are better off saying you're trolling than saying you can accurately assess or minimize the value of prospects we just traded for while at the same time taking on a massive contract. Miami would jump at that offer so fast it would make your head spin.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 03:59 PM) He wasn't pulled. That was a k from a suspended game weeks earlier. Thanks so he was back on the field for the K or not ? Still concerned he hasn't been back yet,.

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 08:44 AM) Man this kid is really damn easy to root for.See ya in Chicago in 2019 Sox fan, Konerko fan. This kid is going to be a fan favorite if he can sustain success all the way to the Show.

Anyone else concerned about Robert ? He's been out longer than expected and hasn't played since he came back with 1 AB and then was pulled.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 06:36 PM) That's why you play for one run A least that means we should not see any more bunts.

Well this game is going to end up 12-3. Tanking is ugly.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 05:56 PM) Can we talk about Anthony Coronado? Dude is raking in DSL with power. Was a VZ signing for like 350k That's a superstar name if I ever heard one. Let us call him The Conquistador .

Can Renteria now . 2 strike bunt no no no no a thousand times no.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 08:10 PM) Who the f*** is Tito Polo? A relative of Marco ? Great for games in the pool.