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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 6, 2010 -> 07:31 PM) I should've said of the last decade. In that case, I agree. Most consistent and best longevity in the game.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 6, 2010 -> 06:57 PM) You made a ridiculous claim that some would take 6 cheap years of Hudson over the best pitcher of the last 10 years. I don't get what's so hard to understand. Does baseball have a cap? No. But every team not named the Yankees, and to a lesser degree the Cubs, Red Sox and Mets, have a budget. A budget that they HAVE to stick to. We've got over 50+ million committed to next year's rotation on a team with a 100 million dollar payroll, give or take a few million. Throw in Rios, who's overpaid, and you're talking 66 million to all of 6 players. Throw in arbitration raises to Danks, CQ and Jenks (Jenks better not be back), and that number gets higher. As of right now, we've got no 1B, C and DH. And no ready replacements in our pathetic system. It made no sense to trade our top pitching prospect, a guy that dominated the minors for over a year and a half, for a guy that's been nothing but mediocre outside of 1 half in 2009, that's due almost 9 million next year and set to become a FA and has an agent we refuse to deal with. It's not about overrating Hudson and thinking he's the next Lincecum. But you have to be able to filter some cheap/controllable talent onto your roster every now and then (again, unless you're the Yankees). Kenny has become his own worst enemy. And the Sox are doing that with cheaper players. They are able to overcompensate for players because they fill the rest of the team with cheap players. So what if they all didn't come directly from the Sox's draft scouting offices. Most of those guys usually don't work, but at the same time, they acquired Floyd, Danks, Jenks, CQ, Ramirez, Teahan, Jones all on the cheap. They have Beckham at 2B, AJ doesn't cost that much at all, and Freddy was their opening day 5th starter. They have guys like Santos and Thornton in the bullpen who were both acquired cheaply. Kotsay is a cheap player. No team is going to have any players that aren't overpaid. No team is also going to have everyone on the cheap and be competitive. It just doesn't happen. By the reaction though, it seems like there's a strong following which thinks Jackson is the most overpaid player on the team, when he's not even the most overpaid player in the rotation. So I don't see what's up with all the "We should've kept Dan Hudson. He's worth more than Edwin Jackson" when clearly he wasn't. QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Oct 6, 2010 -> 08:23 PM) I find it funny that posters who look at Hudson and point out the risk of a prospect succeeding but then they avoid the fact that Jackson had sucked throughout his career, at every stop he was BAD for an extended period of time and there is absolutely no guarantee that he was more of a safe bet than Hudson. Considering with us, Edwin had an ERA+ of 135 which is ace good, he had a ERA+ of 126 with Detroit last year, and 167 with the Dodgers in his first stint there, I'm going to say it's a much safer bet considering that shows he definitely has the talent, when he's with the right coaches, he has shown he can put it together, and it would prove that you are wrong in saying that he sucked everywhere he's been except for one half season which I think you were referencing with the Rays in 08. Now has he sustained success? No, and Coop thinks he can help him. It's no big help when you're traded multiple times and you have a different pitching coach every year preaching different things. QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 6, 2010 -> 08:43 PM) Even the Yankees will bring up young players through their system as they go. I think quite a bit of their bullpen is home grown, Philip Hughes, Robinson Cano, and Brett Gardner are there too. I think it would be smart for about the next 2-5 years for the team to cut spending on the MLB team by about $5-8 million and use that money on amateur players and finding ways to develop them into quality MLB players. The Sox haven't drafted and developed a star player in a really long time (Beckham could certainly get there, but he is definitely not a star player at this juncture). And the Sox don't? Or we're not going to count Beckham, Santos, and Morel next year? Or we're not going to count Alexei or Viciedo? And we don't count Buehrle or PK? The sox have done a better job than most at keeping players who will be useful to them. Are they great at drafting? No, they're probably mediocre, but they're smart enough to realize that and make adjustments. As far as the Yankees, I don't think most of their bullpen is homegrown. I'd probably say maybe 3 guys tops. QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Oct 7, 2010 -> 09:44 AM) I agree with you. Thank you.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 6, 2010 -> 06:44 PM) Best pitcher of this era. Define this era.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 6, 2010 -> 05:48 PM) No, they're losing to a better team and arguably the best pitcher in baseball. It's not because they have average talent. The Reds more than likely aren't going to win this series. But it's easy to see that this is a team (the Reds) that have a chance to be a perennial contender for the next 5 years. Disagree strongly. Phillips is soon going to be getting old. They don't have any ace pitchers. Chapman may be one, but it's too early to tell. And I never stated their talent is average. 2nd place is above average. But they're not an elite team. Elite teams are teams that make the playoffs. The only teams I can see the Reds beating are the Braves(because of injuries galore) and the Giants(besides Buster, they have no hitting. And yes, I include Pablo Sandoval). As far as the Phillies, the high payroll does allow them to take care of business.

QUOTE (gatnom @ Oct 5, 2010 -> 08:23 PM) When there are 25 players on a roster, not every one can be paid $20 million. And not everyone is. Heck, wasn't Jon Garland making around 10 million when contracts were given out like Donuts at an AA meeting? Jackson has more potential and his best season overall has been as good if not better than Garland's best season. QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 5, 2010 -> 10:12 PM) Ahahahaha. LOL. That's hilarious. That's almost as delusional as somebody claiming Ben Gordon is the equal to Brandon Roy. Oh wait...... Except, I didn't try to make an argument using contracts. I actually brought stats to the table in which no one really proved otherwise. And that was before last season. I digress with basketball talk in the baseball forum. QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 6, 2010 -> 07:50 AM) Did this post just compare Edwin Jackson with Roy Halladay? It did not.

I don't see Edwin on that list as much as many of you guys would like him to be. I think Kenny wants to see a stud pitching staff. If anyone is traded on that staff, it's going to be Danks and it's because he has the most value(he's cheaper than Peavy, he's a very good pitcher, and he doesn't want to sign an extension for cheap). It's almost a no duh move. Peavy Buehrle Jackson Floyd Sale That's a very nice rotation. As far as hitting, BJ will be on the radar. Kemp sounds like a KW type move, but the Dodgers don't want to move him yet. Butler is actually a very good guess. Very good numbers for a guy with no protection in his lineup. He has decent pop which can turn good in US Cellular. He's actually a guy who doesn't just kill the Sox, but he's a good overall ballplayer. I think Teahan ends up as a utility player. Sox end up keeping PK. CQ is going to be shopped. I can see the Sox bringing back Uribe. AJ will probably stay. Honestly, even if KW tries to, I don't see him rocking the boat all that much. But he'll be hell bent on getting his LH power bat.

Moss has been showing up for once all season. Is he secretly pouting that he isn't getting paid? It's possible. But at the same time, let's not make it seem like he isn't trying out there. You can say that about his other stops, but not in NE. As far as the Pats, it's going to hurt them alot more than what people think. We'll see how good Welker is when dealing with double teams and the #1 corner zeroing in on him. They have no running attack whatsoever. And their defense, especially their secondary, is not good enough to hang. They might miss the playoffs this year.

ND is a fraud team and so is Michigan, with that said, Michigan is still a better squad.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 4, 2010 -> 06:26 PM) You've got to be kidding? They'll probably lose. But it certainly won't be from a lack of talent. As seen today, it is from a talent standpoint. They don't have the talent to match up with the best. Honestly, in any other year, they would've been a 2nd place team in any division but the AL East and a fringe WildCard team. Dusty actually managed them very well and that's why they're there, but I wouldn't be shocked if they get swept at all.

Old school Bulls in this generation. As Al Bundy would say, "Let's Rock"

I'm predicting Bulls finish 5th now because Boozer's out and Milwaukee is a very underrated team. With that said, we'll make it to the 2nd round and 6 games.

What was wrong with Anderson? In fact, for the most part, their defense has been beastly. What they need to do is trade and sign any OL off the scrapheap and hope someone sticks.

I'll laugh if Hudson ends up like all the other great cheap prospects of the Sox such as Reed and McCarthy. I've never seen a guy so overvalued in my life. I get the feeling that people would take "6 cheap years of Dan Hudson" over 2 years of Doc Halladay because he was cheaper. And Rick Hahn, while seemingly a nice fellow, is overrated on this board as well.

QUOTE (IamtheHBOMB @ Oct 4, 2010 -> 07:36 PM) The Riddler is one of the corniest villains in Batman's rogues' gallery. I don't really see him fitting in the world that Nolan has created. The Nolan brothers and Goyer are going to have to come up with an interesting angle to make him into a compelling foil. They seem to shy away from bad guys with a supernatural bent such as Clayface, Killer Croc, Mr. Freeze, ManBat, etc. It would be cool if they could work in a character like Deadshot (one of the world's greatest assasins) as a secondary villain. You could've said the same about Joker. Then Nolan did his own Joker and it killed. I think it would be the same with Riddler.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Oct 4, 2010 -> 06:26 PM) Mike Martz secretly took out $2M life insurance policy on Cutler I'm guessing it's satire and it's stupid satire at that.

I watched it live on a stream. I'm glad Cena lost and I'm glad Undertaker lost. Sadly, both those swerves were seen since the day the PPV card was madeup. Undertaker only brings back Paul Bearer to have him turn on him, and you knew WWE wasn't going to put another guy over Cena. It was hilarious seeing the sad little kid with the Cena gear almost at tears.

QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Oct 4, 2010 -> 07:45 PM) Not quite that sure yet. As it stands right now, I feel the Lakers will tear them apart in the paint. Disagree strongly. Bynum is already injured until December at earliest. I wouldn't ever depend on him anymore.

The Hulk Hogan theme music was possibly the greatest most random thing I've ever seen on television.

I honestly think it has to be Robin Williams for Riddler. If not him, I'd go with Joseph GL

QUOTE (flippedoutpunk @ Oct 4, 2010 -> 03:34 PM) dont be hatin.. u know its not too late to go ahead and bet the house on the Heat this year I actually am.

I'm taking the Rays.

Reds are my favorite NL team which is why I know they'll get swept against the Phillies. They simply are not good enough. Honestly, I think this year was a fluke year. They don't have enough talent.

I'm taking the Yankees in 4.

I'm going with the Giants only because they seem to have more momentum. I think both teams are really equal though.

Alexei should win GG, but I don't forsee it happening. Anyone else read the Sun-Times today? Sounds like both KW and Ozzie buried the hatchet once and for all.