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I really dislike this trade but to be fair I do not know much about the prospects the Dodgers received in return. I heard they may take those prospects and flip them in the Rollins deal to include Hamels. Which would be hilarious cause that would screw the Red Sox over. The reasons I dislike it. 1. Not as high on Grandel as everybody seems to be. He is not very good defensively and offensively is just above average. 2. I would think the Dodgers would be able to flip Kemp to have somebody eat the whole salary and get a couple good prospects. 5 years 110 for a right handed power hitter is not bad at all. 3. If there is one place that will mitigate Kemp's value that would be San Diego. He will be exposed defensively.

Three takeaways: 1. This means Rodon will probably start the year in the minors and come up in June. This makes me happy. 2. I wonder if they have picked this guy out before the meetings. Hahn already talked to Cooper about Jennings. I wonder if that conversation had before the meetings. 3. Is Kenny out of the loop on some things. Before the meeting started he said he expected Rodon to work in the bullpen then move to rotation next year. The moves done make me think Hahn felt otherwise.

I would trade for Crawford then have Viciedo platoon for Larouche and Crawford. I don't want to give up on him yet. Crawford is still a very good fielder, could deepen the lineup and add some speed to the bottom of the lineup. Plus, he seems like a great guy in the clubhouse. He is not too old to be productive throughout the rest of the contract. I really think there is not much difference between Crawford and Melky.

1.I saw the Braves are going to Non-Tender both these guys. They both have surgery before last season. 2.The timetable for Tommy John Surgery Canidates is usually 12-14 months. One could imagine that both would be able to contribute to next seasons roster. 3. I would think they would be worth a flyers on with incentive laden deals. A team could probably give them two year deals. White Sox are in need of right handed starting pitching. At the very least, you could have them come out of the bullpen. 4. Both of them are in the prime of their careers so age is not a factor. The only negative is this is the second Tommy John Surgery for both of them.You wonder if the stuff will still be there. My Question Deal or No Deal?

Tomas needs to be the next addition to the club. Right handed power is the most valuable thing in the game now.

I know he had a horrid 2013. I know he had shoulder surgery. He is still Roy Halladay, the smart, veteran pitcher. We need a right handed pitcher. He may be a relatively low cost option on the right side. Kenny has flirted with him before, granted it was when he was the best pitcher in baseball. He could be a really good fourth or fifth starter on this rotation. You could never have enough pitching depth. If we are not looking to spend anymore money on long term signings he maybe a nice addition to the team.

Here is my problem with a deal. It reminds me when we traded Sergio Santos for Nestor Molina. People were split 50/50 on weather Molina could actually become a starter. I thought having the best asset at the trading deadline would bring us back a close to sure thing. Obviously, prospects are never a sure thing, but something we could say "Hey, if he is not a super star, he will at least be somebody we can plug in everyday". I read in Dan Schoenfield's assestment of the deal is scouts love him but saber metrics people hate him. Could we at least have one player in our system that saber metrics doesn't hate. We have all these guys with loads of talent who don't walk and strikeout a ton. That is the exact problem with out current roster. Nobody can every get on base. But, I would give the White Sox some benefit if they actually have shown they could draft in the past. The problem is that they had one of the worst farm systems in baseball for quite sometime. I have no faith in the Sox scouting ability. If they were at least decent at picking out potential prospects, I would be able to hang my hate on something. Finally, I just wonder what the Sox would have gotten if Good Ol' JR would have some for thought and ate some cash. I am not saying a ton. A few million dollars. Hell, Don't spend it this offseason. But, at least let this team be able to build. I will root for Garcia. Who knows, he could turn into Miguel Cabrera. Right now, from the outside looking in, it just seems we got another Viciedo.

Does anyone think we should hang onto Crain? I am actually not opposed to hanging onto him and trying to get an extension done. He has been one of the only guys to actually live up to his contract in a sox uniform. My thought is this, you should not trade him for a marginal prospect. I agree to trading him only if you actually get something that has value and not just a lottery pick. If you cant, see if you can get a deal done with him going forward. Look, if you are not going to do a complete rebuild with Sale then you are trying to compete next year or 2015. Reed,Jones and Crain are three tremendous assets to do that. The rotation figures to be pretty solid. It's our position players who are just awful. I am not saying don't trade him. I am saying just make sure you actually get value instead of trading him for the heck of it. The White Sox do that far to often. (Simon Castro)...

Question: If the Cards offered Tavares,Wong,Martinez along with some lottery picks for Sale and Alexi would you take it? I would just on the pure upside of the deal. That would be three top 50 prospects and would probably make the White Sox a top 10 farm system right off the bat.

Why would the Braves trade Jason Heyward? He was the top prospect in baseball a few years ago. He still has a huge amount of upside and few more years under team control. I think you are over estimating the value of Peavy. He will get a decent package back but nothing close to Heyward.

I would be intrigued by a package that would start with Kris Medlan. The guy kind of has fallen out of favor. He has put solid K/9 numbers in the past. If you could take him on with a few mid level prospects that would be an intriguing package.

Thanks Guys!

Does anybody know where we sit right now or at least know a range?

There is no way Carlos is on this team come Spring Training. You could see see teams like The Braves, Marlins, Rangers, Cardinals and Red Sox all be in on him. I like our chances of getting a good size haul now that Albert is out of the market. Kenny can pull the Scott Boras move and wait till all the chips have been played. A few teams left out who need some power and boom you have a good package.

Grew up with Mark Buehrle being my favorite player for the White Sox. He was always a class act. Always kept things fun. Always said the right things when things were not going right. Thanks for all the great years MB!!!

Rumor has it that the Braves are shopping for an impact bat and willing to part ways with both Jurrijans and Prado. I really so the White Sox having any use for these two guys. Maybe Jurrijans since he is young cheap starter, but they have a fantastic farm system. I wonder if they would take Thorton and Quentin for some of those good prospects they have over there.

Last I heard he was looking for a MLB Invite. http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/18687/winter-leagues-roundup-milledge-thriving

I was wondering if anyone is willing to give Milledge a shot at a major league position like center or left. I remember him having all kind of tools but not putting together at his younger age. He does have some attitude issues but maybe the ego has been toned down do to lack of success in the big leagues. He put a pretty decent season and could be a potential lead off man for the White Sox. He is only 26 years old and will come cheap. We all know the White Sox like to find the diamonds in the ruff. He hit in the low .270's when he did get a chance to play and to be honest for a highly touted prospect he really didn't get too much major league time to develop. Lastings Milledge: ABS: 444 Average: .293 Home Runs: 12 Runs: 61 RBIS: 48 Stolen Bases: 27 Caught Stealing: 6 Link to Fan Graphs Page: http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...amp;position=OF

QUOTE (Wedge @ Oct 13, 2011 -> 01:47 PM) If it's $110 million, that's great news. A lot more flexibility than I feared. The four biggies for 2012 are Peavy at $17, Rios at $12.5, Dunn at $14, and Konerko at $12. So $55.5 for the big contracts. Other money on the books: $6 for AJ, $7 for Floyd, $5.5 for Thornton, $4.5 for Crain, $2.5 for Ohman, $1 for Santos, $3.25 for Viciedo, and $5 for Ramirez. So another $34.75. I believe Quentin, Danks, and Beckham are all arbitration eligibile. My guess is the Sox would be lucky for that group to sum to $20M. This doesn't account for De Aza, Humber, Lillibridge, or Flowers. Even with those guys, I count 6 more roster spots that need to be filled. That's $110M before counting the low salary guys and adding anybody (or picking up Frasor's option). You have to figure Buehrle is a casualty unless they trade somebody.

I think the thread makes a ton of sense. This will put more pressure on ownership to deliver a more competitive product on the field. 1. Theo coming in with one of the largest contracts ever for a general manager. Rickett is very intrigued by sabermetrics and would imagine Theo has all the ability to make any moves he wants with the club. I bet the rumors of a trimmed down payroll are false. The cubs are in a mess right now, but a general manager with money who knows where to spend( draft picks and internationally) can turn around a franchise in a hurry. I would expect the Cubs to be very good in three years or less. 2. Consequently, the White Sox better get there act together. I know they only compete with the Cubs on the field six games a year. But, financially they compete with the Cubs everyday. They compete with them for memorabilia sales, eyes balls watching the television, ears listening to the radio, and most importantly asses in the seats. To say how well the Cubs do does not effect the White Sox is very narrow minded. 3. So what can they do. They can start investing in high draft picks, and start building more in Latin America. For once, I would like a Top Prospect to become a superstar. The only guy that maybe can do that is Dayan Viciedo.

My problem with the hire is not Ventura, but the process that Kenny took to this job. Usually, in organization has interviews with other canidates. It seems to me that Kenny just decided by conversations over the years that he was the right man for the job. What happend to sitting down talking three or four different guys and seeing which one fits you philosophy best? I think Ventura could be good just from the standpoint that he can be one of the guys. My only wonder is if he would get rolled over by a player who has a dominant personality. I think for developing players he can do a very good job. Also, it is more apparent that before Ozzie ever left that Ventura would be the next manager for the White Sox. I just do not like how the White Sox go about there business sometimes. Also, for god sakes put some money into your farm system starting with Latin America and ending with paying more money for draft picks. Maybe you would not have as many prospect flops.

You have to think of what the team can get back too. Buehrle is a free agent who is most likely to retire before playing for another team. Danks and Quentin can gain the whitesox some quality prospects as they come with first round draft picks the following year. Also, it seems like both guys are determined to hit the open market so the chances of us in reality signing them are slim to none. The White Sox have always been lets rebuild on the fly while competing for championships. At least if they sign Buehrle they can tell the fan base they have a chance. I would not be opposed to trading somebody like Alexi as he going to get really expensive in the last few years of his contract. Also, there might be a chance he is older than what he said coming into the league. Again, it is all about trade solid assets for quality youth players while trying to compete at the same time.

So a couple of things that I think should happen our. 1. Resign Buehrle: The White Sox are not looking good for the future so they better keep one of the guys that is a fan favorite. Plus, he is still a quality pitcher. I think a 3-30 million dollar is appropriate. 2. Trade Danks and Quentin: I know this would be a dramatic change for the White Sox. It is clear both guys want to hit the open market and I don't think we are going to be able phony up the cash to keep them around for the long term. I think we could get quality prospects for return since a team would get there production for one year and draft pick compensation if they sign elsewhere. 3. Clear room for the kids to play. I mean let Flowers and AJ split time behind the plate. Viciedo should have a starting spot. I am not a huge Morel fan as his plate dicipline is just terrible but getting a third baseman in the open for cheap is pretty much impossible. Also, would like to see Lasting Milledge get some playing time with the White Sox as he put up decent numbers in Triple A this year and was once a prize prospect. 4. Clearly, starting pitching is something that will give the White Sox an ulcer over the offseason. I think maybe we can stockpile a few arms with some trade. 5. FIRE GREG WALKER. I know its not all his fault, but clearly the guy didnt do a great job the last few seasons with the White Sox. Every young hitter that comes up does well to begin with than struggles. Thank you for listening. I appreciate any feedback. Go Sox!

Went to the game last night. Can anybody tell me the theme song that play when he goes to bat? Thanks.

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