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Like I said, it was never going to be tomorrow, and tampering expectations with some understandings of the complexities that are happening in this plan should tell you that even if everything falls in perfect sequence, a lot of these steps have to come to fruition completely, for the next step after it to start. I feel like this is a 5 year minimum plan, with a sweet spot in the 6 to 8 year range. There are a lot of studies, remediations, investigations, and flat out construction that needs to happen before the Sox can even break ground on a new stadium. Keep that in mind. Again, first thing is all of the red tape needs to be cleared up to get the new Amtrak site even started. Once it is started, then you have the construction time needed before it becomes useable to Amtrak. That probably covers 2027-28. Once they move in, THEN the same process starts on the new site. All of the tear down, removal, remediation, and clean up will need to be done, before a stadium can break ground. Say 29-30 for the permitting, investigation, tear down, remediation, and removals. That brings us to 2030-2032 for construction, and a 2033 open. It might be conservative, but because these steps will not mostly overlap, and need to be done in sequential pieces, it can't be rushed as it would be in an open and clean site with no contingencies. This isn't tearing down a couple of bars and building like New Comiskey was.

Bud Selig needs to shut up and go put his nose in the corner after how bad his tenure looks with some historic perspective. From contraction, to ignoring the steroid era, and not being able to fix the finances in baseball under his tenure, he needs to stfu.

These types of things are exactly why I think the Sox are 6 to 8 years away from a new home. These delays are normal.

See also Korea, North/South

He SHOULD be, but yeah, we all know better as long as Jerry is still signing checks.

I think I speak for all of Soxtalk when I say f*** Ron.

Mike Trout? Good god.

If we are talking about something in the 3 to 5 million range for a year, sure.

The one thing they haven't been able to do is win in the division so far this year, and that HAS to change if they want to move on.

Not going to lie, I was wondering how they would come back with a target on their back and a much tougher schedule, but they are doing enough to win games, even when Caleb was out.

GOOD -> BETTER -> BEST

You're also obsessed with declaring a single trade a success. They may not try to "win" every trade, but they do try to improve the team with each trade. I get it, you idolize Chris Getz and need to frame everything as a complete win over and over and over and over, just to make sure everyone gets exposed to that very niche opinion that is very underrepresented, LOL.

The new season of The Diplomat was just outstanding. Literally the best writing on television right now.

Honestly with the roster he got, he 100% deserves this award.

I'm sure it is Rick and Kenny's fault.

We went in July and it had to be 120 degrees plus in the trams. It was soooooo miserable. Then to get to the top and need the Catholic school kneelers to get a view of nothing was the topper.

The museum is excellent. The arch itself is literally one of the two worst historic site experiences I have ever had. It's tiny, cramped, not made for actually viewing anything, and getting up there is absolutely an awful experience.

I was speaking more to the seating and views. Big old posts everywhere, not really great site lines, overhanging upper deck, plenty of oddities about the park due to things like the block it was built into etc.

I did Nationals Park during a convention and we got a box to entertain clients, so I hardly remember it. I remember who pitched (Harvey vs Strausberg), but nothing else stands out about the park. That probably means something. I love the area around the STL ballpark too. The park itself was decent, not great. My favorite spot to stay there is the Hyatt right next to the arch with the one side of the building having a clear view of the Mississippi River, the park, and the arch.

I have on and off over the years, but haven't bought it in a while.

When I talk about sitelines, this is a big one. Are your seats facing the pitching mound/home plate?

Them's fightin words

Not at all lazy. Very much the same era, and the same type of experience. Went there the last season it was open, and it kind of felt like home, aka Comiskey Park.

It is a basic ballpark, with all of the normal amenities. There is literally nothing special, or stand out about it. There is no special experience, unique design, or oddity about the park that makes it stand out amongst its peers. Literally the thing that stands out more to me than anything else when compared to the other parks I have been to, is parking for cars. That's it. All of the things that other designers learned and improved on since this park was created are stark. -Entering at the top of the 100 section, versus the absolute bottom of the stadium. -Non-standardized walls and dimensions, including things like outfield seating designs. -Not completely removing the most upper levels from the ballpark experiences at the 100 level. -Some special attraction -Field level premium experiences -Ballpark village -Integration into a skyline -More integration for rideshare and transit experiences This current iteration of Sox Park is a sterile island in a neighborhood completely disconnected from the ballpark. We can do better next time.