Dick Allen

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 11:27 AM) But that would mean some sort of interim manager named to finish out the season, and then Alomar named in the offseason, correct? Coaches don't bolt teams mid-season to take over managerial positions on other teams. They can and they do.

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 11:22 AM) Did anyone else see the last 2 lines of the article? If the Sox decide to fire Robin mid-season, they can still offer Sandy the job. That is what I have been posting. I think if Robin gets the axe, he's the odds on favorite.

QUOTE (Baron @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 10:50 AM) Should we have no coaches? They are all threats to Robins job next year. It's not anyone's fault but Robin and the Front Office for the position they are in. Resign him to a 2 year deal,fire him or roll with him on the 1 year deal and the consequences it's already bringing. They will hire someone. It's a bench coach job. The next post blaming Mark Parent for the White Sox record will be the first. They apparently wanted Sandy, but he didn't want to be perceived as a guy after Robin's job. OK, now the Sox have to move to the next guy on their list. How far it goes, who knows, but I doubt anyone will take a few wins off their White Sox projection based on the next coach they hire. Again, I think a different 3rd base coach may make a bigger difference.

QUOTE (Baron @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 10:17 AM) It's not going to help no matter who the bench coach is. That's the point. As long as Robin is on a 1 year deal with his job on the line there are going to be talks. It's possible, maybe probable, but Sandy doesn't want to be that guy. If they hire a guy that would be an interim manager, that is one thing, but if 2 weeks after a slow start, Sandy signed a 3 year contract, in his mind, he would look like a snake. It's a real tough hire especially if the hire is a guy who is interviewing for managing jobs. It is one reason I think they might go for a 3rd base coach and let McEwing be the bench coach. Personally, I think this would effect the White Sox more. I haven't been so impressed with McEwing's decisions the last couple of years, although with the lack of offense, he probably had to be more aggressive than normal. I just think at times, it was being stupid not aggressive.

QUOTE (Baron @ Nov 1, 2015 -> 11:08 PM) I always find notion silly of being respectful to the guy that holds the position. Say he gets fired in May. You not going to consider the job a few months down the line after the season is over? Robin's going to be on the hot seat no matter what. What it appears is Sandy was the choice to become the bench coach and probably the possible replacement. If Robin does get the axe, this decision doesn't preclude Sandy from being named the manager. If it is perceived that the new hire is Robin's potential or automatic replacement, there will be a million stories on it from the time he is hired, through spring training. It probably isn't good for Robin, the coaches, or the players.

Chances of the Sox signing Gordon are between 0.1% and 1.42538%. Once again the JR loyalty thing now accusing him of overpaying because he "owes" people. Try telling that to Fisk, McDowell, Thome, Buerhle, Konerko and his $2.5 million contract with $1 million of that deferred, AJP. Its one thing to offer an extension which buys out some arb years and delays free agency a year or 2. That isn't overpaying because of "loyalty'. This JR loyalty BS has gone way too far. Personally, I would buy Alexei out and offer him a contract with incentives that if he was awesome, pay him more than $10 million next year.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 06:22 PM) Fair point... If the White Sox had Lind or Morales they still would have sucked and had a lowere unprotected draft pick.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 11:50 AM) It's the NFL, I wouldn't be so sure about that. Maybe not this season, but I wouldn't be shocked to see him playing again next year. Wishing death to staff's children? Considering even Jerry Jones let him go, he's done. The fact that he can get this crazy and owns guns, who is to say he doesn't kill half your team if he's drinking or something else or just is having a bad day?

This should pretty much end any chance of Ratliff hooking up with another team http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...1030-story.html

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 09:45 AM) Hahn appears to be trying to bring in outside people. In a moment of optimism, I feel there are sharks surrounding Buddy Bell (metaphorically OF COURSE). Buddy Bell was once an outsider.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 09:16 AM) In his defense, he didn't take as many walks as Charlotte because they wanted him to cut down on his strikeouts. If they want him making more contact than his .OBP is definitely going to be lower. We can make excuses for a lot of things, but over 7 minor league seasons he hit .241 with a .319 OBP. He may be the rare guy that does better in the majors than the minors, but the odds are against it.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 08:57 AM) This was argued to death in a different thread, but Trayce's numbers after August weren't bad at all. .233/.310/.422/.732, 99 wRC+, lost of extra base hits. Anyone here would gladly take that performance over a full season. I'll continue to assert that he's earned a spot ahead of Avisail Garcia on the depth chart. He put up a .304 OBP in AAA last year. He was really good during his call up. Maybe he clicked with Steverson, but more than likely, if Trayce played everyday, his numbers would be worse than they were in AAA. I'd be willing to bet Adam LaRoche puts up a better OPS than Trayce next season, if Trayce was playing every day.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Oct 29, 2015 -> 03:05 PM) Wieters is a nice player, but I'm saying no thanks to a big contract for the 30-year-old catcher with an injury history. Although Weiters hasn't exactly been Carlton Fisk, Fisk was a 33 year old catcher with an injury history.

Actually switched jobs with Todd Steverson a few years ago. http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_19308594 He actually went back to the role Steverson had this year. They did say they were instituting an organizational approach. It obviously is going to take time, and the correct players.

QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 29, 2015 -> 09:02 AM) i like this move, low risk high reward move. i just hope that the sox will pickup another SP in the offseason still. they might not, considering they just added to the rotation with Turner. I am sure they will. They are not counting on him. He hardly pitching this year.

Obviously Shapiro was going to be a lot more involved with personnel than Beeston. I don't think this is much of a shock. A free agent GM, at his peak value, with no openings available.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 29, 2015 -> 08:59 AM) They just bought a place in New Buffalo on the beach. Chicago Tribune Verified account ‏@chicagotribune Oct 27 White Sox executive Kenny Williams, Zoraida Sambolin buy Michigan home for $2.33 million http://trib.in/1Rz7P8G They love lake effect snow.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 08:13 PM) I'm trying to be as optimistic as I can with him as well, but it's kind of naive to think that Coop will magically "fix" him and he'll live up to the potential that he once had. It could happen, but it's unlikely. There's no need to be optimistic about him. But there is no need to be pessimistic either. He's a guy with talent. If they can get him healthy, and work on a couple of things, he might be help. If he can't help, so what? They aren't counting on him.

QUOTE (Baron @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 08:38 PM) That or sign him to an extension. This is like Lovie I believe it was in 2009. Sitting on a 1 year deal and really Mike Martz was the only one who wanted the job as OC. Lovie if he didnt make the NFC Championship game was probably going to get fired. An OC has more of an effect on a team than a bench coach, but I do agree it does make the job less attractive.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 07:50 PM) How is this guy any different than Kyle Drabek? We all know how that worked out... Drabek is still in the organization, and probably has a slight chance of making the team next year. this is a free spring training look at a young guy who was a top prospect not too long ago. Acquiring guys like these 2 won't work out all the time, but they cost next to nothing and eventually you will hit on one or more.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 03:47 PM) Yes. Is this Korean slugger a better hitter than Dan Black? .333/.413/.576 12 Homers in about 1/3 of the PA.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 02:53 PM) Abreu got his deal when the Cuban market was at its height. The Korean market hasn't even developed yet. I don't think he will get Abreu money either, but his numbers are pretty spectacular. The knock against him is contact. Kang's k-rate stayed about the same, which doesn't mean this guy's wouldn't double, but would have to be at least slightly encouraging. But A ball, AA ball AAA ball guys put up big numbers and star in the majors, and a lot of them suck in the majors. I wouldn't want to pay someone based on their Korean League numbers alone.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 02:48 PM) Kang had far more position flexibility. Real question is what are his tools. Their is no way a korean 1B is getting a deal anywhere near Abreu's. And Kang's deal is only viewed as a bargain now...it was fair market at the time of the deal. I wonder where the Korean League rates vs. the Cuban League.

Hee Soep Choi

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 01:23 PM) That's still going on? Yeah, some lawyer hoping for a settlement.