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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 10, 2015 -> 03:00 PM) IIRC they worked Gordon at 3b for like a week or two in Charlotte right before he was called up. He played 8 games there. Saladino has played 5. So really, they are in the same boat. He has primarily played SS so I don't think this should be a huge deal. If he is a decent SS, and I don't know where his throwing is at, he should be better than Gillaspie right now, and improve at 3B with more reps. But this isn't like putting Soto in LF.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 10, 2015 -> 01:26 PM) We really do need a righty somewhere in this roster to take PAs away from LaRoche. That's the role I thought Semien would fill...then that became the role I thought Bonifacio would fill, because why else would you spend that much money on him after already signing Beckham? (Beckham, btw, was needed to be the RH platoon with Gillaspie, which was equally important to having a platoon partner for LaRoche) They signed Bonifacio before they signed Beckham. The fact is Beckham and Shuck outplayed him. People moan about guys like Flowers and Beckham and Sanchez and last season Leury Garcia, well, Bonifacio has been worse than all of them, yet there are complaints he isn't used "properly". If being used properly is not being used with the other guys, why wouldn't it apply here?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 10, 2015 -> 01:21 PM) Money-wise the $4.5 million isn't crippling I agree, but it's enough that it's getting in the way. By 2017, we're talking what, $7-8 million, probably more with revenue growth? I'd have to imagine he's non-tendered if he's basically this same player at that point. Isn't it about what they are paying Keppinger to play in a beer league? Avi has his warts, but there is potential, and they guy seems willing to give a big effort. He isn't much of a problem right now or the next couple of years.

Bonifacio is a bench player so you take what you can get. If he hits .280, it will be one of the most inconsistent .280s in the league. Look at his game logs. 85-90% of the season he hits like a pitcher.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 10, 2015 -> 01:08 PM) I'm pretty sure the first post explained the way you wind up needing to use him? Not really. You don't know when the hot streak is going to happen. If he gets a couple of hits, it probably is a sign to keep him in the line up a few days, but if he is not hitting at all, it isn't unusual.

The RV doesn't know how to use him is pure BS. He has a ..344 OPS against LHP, a .332 OPS vs. RHP, his glove has been horrible. RV not playing him IS USING HIM PROPERLY.

The thing about Bonifacio is he usually is pretty weak for long stretches, but goes on an amazing hot streak or 2 which keeps his numbers respectable.

QUOTE (shipps @ Jul 10, 2015 -> 12:10 PM) I know many of you have suggested it is corresponding to our pitching roster moves but is there any chance this is a move ahead of a trade that is about to be done? There's always a chance. I am sure they will carry another pitcher after the break.

QUOTE (Mike F. @ Jul 10, 2015 -> 12:05 PM) That's true. However, Bonifacio never plays, so what's the point of having him on the team? There's no reason to have a guy rotting away on the bench when they never play. If Gillaspie isn't going to play 3B, he will appear in games about as often as Bonifacio has. Maybe they could get something for Conor. For EB, nothing. I think they would be better off with a 25 year old in A ball with a 4,75 ERA who throws 99 and Bonifacio on the bench, th

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 10, 2015 -> 11:10 AM) I agree with you. he needs to show more power though. I don't know if it shows up this season, but in the past he has a groundball rate you would expect from Juan Pierre. If he could get the ball in the air more, he could probably hit is as far as anybody.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 10, 2015 -> 11:57 AM) More and more I get the feeling that Bonifacio is next. Maybe, but I am starting to get the feeling Gillapsie is next. They obviously don't like to put him in the field anymore. At least Bonifacio can PR.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Jul 10, 2015 -> 09:07 AM) I'm not even concerned with him remaining a core player. Core players usually do something well. We've got lots of holes to fill and at this point I consider right field one of them. And if we jettisoned LaRoche and moved Avi to DH, I'd consider DH one of them. I am sure the front office doesn't feel the same way and he'll get his shot as long as they can fall back on his youth. Stone said the other day Avi was 5th in the AL in velocity coming off his bat. As down as some people are on him, there is potential there. If he gets balls in the air, he could be a monster.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 10, 2015 -> 08:21 AM) I'd rather watch Davidson fail for the 1st time than Beckham for the 5th time. There is still a 0.1% chance that Davidson can be a everyday MLB player. That percentage is dead zero for Gordon. Then if you get your wish, don't complain about the White Sox calling up players when they are not ready or ever rushing them, because that is exactly what you want them to do. Just because you would rather watch Davidson strike out rather than Beckham doesn't mean it is the correct move. And if Davidson is a late bloomer, calling him up before he is ready, isn't going to help him bloom. Let him flail away in Charlotte until he shows he is ready, not call him up because the major league team is lacking. If more of the same continues, you can call him up in September when the games don't mean anything and maybe he gets a couple of hits. Or just wait until next spring. Calling him up now and having him strike out more often than Adam Dunn does him and the White Sox absolutely no good.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 10, 2015 -> 08:16 AM) his K totals are off the charts. I wonder how many swinging strikes he takes v. how many called strikes he takes. With his high walk totals (15% of the time), he's obviously looking for "that pitch" and perhaps overly-willing to sit back down if he doesn't get it. If so, it may be something that he could realistically improve on. His k level was Javier Baez-like last year, even worse, with a lower walk rate. At any rate, if it can be improved, it doesn't appear he is with the team that gets that improvement.

Anyone calling for Matt Davidson should never be able to complain about White Sox prospects anymore. And when he fails, should be suspended if they complain even once. He's hitting .230 and striking out at an incredible clip in his third go around at a level a 22 year old Carlos Sanchez had no problem with.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 9, 2015 -> 03:20 PM) "That's going to start David Robertson to work". He didn't start until after the inning began? I bet he can get ready in one batter's time.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 9, 2015 -> 03:14 PM) Why is Jose always swinging at those awful sliders low and away? He didn't do it as much last year. In fact, he crushed sliders last year according to pitch f/x. This year, he's got a negative pitch value on them. I think it's the product of trying to do too much.

Where is the thread when he signed? I don't recall many complaining back then. Weren't the Sox supposed to be in a full rebuild anyway?

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 9, 2015 -> 01:48 PM) The way Samardzija has pitched today I am sure the Jays are ready to give up their top three prospects for Samardzija. AA claims he wants to stay out of the rental aisle. What I don't understand is if they are high on him and want him, maybe picking him up before he pitches against them makes sense. If they lose today, that's a game they could have been facing someone from AAA.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 9, 2015 -> 01:21 PM) Say we trade Samardzija, what do you think the chances are he would sign with the Sox in the off season? Probably the same as if the Sox keep him until the end of the season.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 9, 2015 -> 11:31 AM) I can't believe the Bulls were even compared to the Sox situation. They had a dynasty in the 90s, have been pretty good over the last decade, have no other Chicago NBA team in town to compete with, only have to fill up the stadium 41 games instead of 81, and have a much lower capacity to fill. Even the pathetic Sox attendance of recent years would be enough to sell out the United Center every night. It's not an even comparison in the slightest. We also need to stop comparing our situation to the Cubs. According to the Cubs' marketing department, 37% percent of their fans are tourists from out-of-state. Wrigley Field is a huge tourist attraction, you take away that from the Cubs and they would have similar attendance woes when they're bad. http://chicagoist.com/2011/07/25/cubs_numb..._percent_of.php This is where you ignoring things. Caulfield likes to say a third of the Cubs attendance are tourists, but then say USCF is 75% Tigers fans or whoever they are playing. So the assumption that everyone at USCF is local is crazy. The other assumption you make is if 37% of the crowd at any particular game are tourists, if those tourists stayed home, those tickets would remain unsold. I don't think that is true for every one of them. Not even close. The Cubs are more popular than the Sox. It's even in this thread people would be more inclined to go to a Sox game if there was a Wrigleyville vibe to the neighborhood.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Jul 9, 2015 -> 11:09 AM) I'm not even referring to whether he should have challenged the play in Detroit. I'm talking specifically about people using "because the player said he should challenge" as a reason he should challenge. It should never be a reason, or only ever a minor consideration at most. That's why they have guys specifically looking at replays. Generally, 99.99% of the time, a runner knows if he is out or safe on the throw to 1B, anyone who ever complains when they are called out on a groundball in the infield and replay confirms it, was just putting on a show. Tags are different. Avi looked like he was out a mile, but the replay showed it to be pretty close.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 9, 2015 -> 10:56 AM) I'd be surprised. Bulls backup PG spot has been a prime piece, and Lin would seem to be a big draw in high asian population cities (NY, HOU, LA...charlotte. And DRose hasn't played much the last couple of years. If he is healthy, Lin's playing time is going to be limited at best.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 9, 2015 -> 11:04 AM) Robin should have challenged that because he should be aware of what is happening in a baseball game. Doesn't mean he should have challenged this one. Surprisingly, two things can be similar (player asks to challenge) but be different (completely different scenarios and plays). On the same token, every day I wake up and go to bed, but much of the time the day is different! The umpires wouldn't even look at it.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 9, 2015 -> 10:43 AM) Yeah, I am more pissed about that then this Jordan stuff, haha. I think if the Bulls offered him the same contract, he still goes to Charlotte. More PT, assuming DRose can stay healthy.