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QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Mar 3, 2010 -> 08:34 AM) I disagree. I would take pure talent over grindiness any day.... Rowand wasn't "GREAT" but he busted his ass in the outfield, hit decent, had a great attitude, and seemed like a great clubhouse guy. The last two can go a long way in keeping a team loose and having fun/winning games. Rios is talented, and has potential to put up better numbers, but I don't see the defense topping Rowand or his attitude.

Bored... so I'm comparing opening day of 2005 to 2010. 2005/2010 C- AJ Pierzynski AJ Pierzynski - 5 years older, 2005 wins. 1B- Paul Konerko/Paul Konerko - 5 years older, 2005 wins. 2B Tadahito Iguchi/Gordon Beckham - Tossup, but Beckham has more upside than Tad had. 3B: Joe Crede/Mark Teahen - Gotta go with Crede, especially on defense. SS: Juan Uribe/Alexei Ramirez - Very close with Uribe's superior Defense. RF: Jermaine Dye/Carlos Quentin- Very Close, CQ gets win for defense and return to 08 form. CF: Aaron Rowand/Alex Rios - Rowand all the way, nothing shows me Rio's will be any better than Aaron. LF: Scott Podsednik/Juan Pierre - Very close, tie. DH: Frank Thomas/Carl Everett - Andruw Jones/Mark Kotsay - Frank Thomas, no question. Bench: Pablo Ozuna/Omar Vizquel - Omar for the late inning defense. Willie Harris/Jayson Nix - Willie for the speed, defense. Brian Anderson/Andruw Jones or Alejandro De Aza (Depends on roster spot with pitchers) - Prefer Jones if his defense is any close to past form. Timo Perez/Mark Kotsay - Timo was faster, better defense, more useful. Chris Widger/Ramon Castro - Ramon Castro considering he actually hits this year. SP: Mark Buehrle/Mark Buehrle - Close, but Buehrle is also 5 years older. Freddy Garcia/Jake Peavy - Peavy all the way. Jon Garland/John Danks - Danks is more consistent. Jose Contreras/Gavin Floyd - Tie, both around high 3's in era, occasional great starts and bad starts. Orlando Hernandez/Freddie Garcia tie, expect mid 4's-5 in era, not too many innings, injuries. Closer: Shingo Takatsu/Bobby Jenks Jenks more proven. Setup: Dustin Hermanon/Matt Thorton Thorton's great, no injury risk Pen: Damso Marte/JJ Putz Tie, Putz has to bounce back from injury but has more upside. Cliff Pollite/Randy Williams Both had similar prior years, Pollite is was more proven. Brandon Mccarthy/Carlos Torres or Dan Hudson Very similar situation Luis Vizcaino/Scott Linebrink - Vizcaino for the Linebrink meltdowns and crapness. Neal Cotts/Tony Pena - Tie, both had similarly bad previous years and similar career numbers. Winner: 2005, 13 - 12 Think both teams are very similar, 2005 had better defense/power/over hitting, 2010 has slightly better starting pitching, bullpens are similar.

He's probably not an alchoholic... if your ever out with buddies at a bar and don't get drink (Unless your really an alchy who drinks everyday socially/alone or just get dumb everytime u drink), you got a problem.

Cowley>Soxnet.... Cowley has way more sources and is in the locker room, at games, etc. This feud is stupid.

I'm surprised Dye hasn't signed yet.... must be asking for too much $$$

QUOTE (jphat007 @ Feb 20, 2010 -> 04:51 PM) Well I hope somebody is held responsible when Kotsay is hitting .250 and Jones is hurt and we have a Vizquel/Nix DH platoon. It's not over yet... KW will probably trade some prospects around AS break for a overpaid player after his experiment already failed.

"ESPN.com's Buster Olney hears that Scott Boras wants two things from the Tigers. First, he's asking them to remove all deferred money from the one-year $7MM deal they have offered. Second, he wants the Tigers to add a second year (Twitter links)."

Rowand...... wish we never traded him for Thome as well, would of loved to have had Thomas/Rowand > Thome/Brian Anderson/Darin Erstad/Dewayne Wise and the rest of the garbage we through out in CF before getting Rios.

Looks like we're gonna get him... will be a very nice signing, really think this lineup will be very productive and exciting to watch.

Yeah this thread sucks... I'm 98% sure Detroit will overpay another player.

Tigers lost Edwin Jackson too. Stupid ass article.

I don't understand why the Yankees would want him back in 2011 if they didn't want him this year. His numbers in 09 will be hard to top. Also with the worst farm system in baseball, no way sox get AGonz or Fielder. It will really bury our system if we do, and that's even if the Pads or Brewers are interested after so many flopped Sox prospects.

I'm sure if KW wanted him he would of signed him by now... unless he was under the radar trying to get a good deal, Boras is just driving up the price.

Who cares, its the offseason and he's enjoying it. He did a good job last season and he's not a major star where this would be a PR problem.

Yankees signed Randy Winn... so no Damon in NY. He would be a good fit, but ANDRUW JONES is on the team.

These "Future" stats are stupid. Anything can happen, Jones can hit .290 with 35 HR 90RBI or .180 5HR 20RBI before he's cut... anything can happen.

Worst case scenario: Twins get first place, Thome Hits 25+ HRs, 80+ RBIs, .400 OBP, and has better offensive numbers than any sox hitter... I say 50/50 chance.

Sox don't need Fuk.

QUOTE (MattZakrowski @ Jan 26, 2010 -> 12:29 PM) Is it bad that I laughed really hard at that? But exact statistics? 2009(Thome, then Kotsay): wOBA .367 .309 OBP .366 .327 SLG .481 .390 Yes... Thome is a better hitter than Kotsay. But with Quentin/Konerko we don't need Thome/Dye because 08/09 is proof having four slow power hitters = fail. Kotsay can play the field and sit on the bench, Thome is still a great hitter that can start everyday (At DH only). If Konerko was gone, I gurantee they would of brought back Thome (who will once again be more productive than PK if he starts everyday) My guess is Jones will get the majority of playing time, and DH will be open to Quentin if his plantar fasciitis bothers him again.. it will also give players a day off from the field. (Vizquel starts, Alexei can DH, ETC..)

He actually got 10 million plus performance bonuses... Beane has made some bonehead moves the past few years (Except the Swisher trade)...... My guess is if he's 'lucky' and Sheets has a good, healthy year, they will trade him at deadline for prospects... a big IF though.

QUOTE (The Critic @ Jan 26, 2010 -> 11:49 AM) A's signed Ben Sheets. 1 year, $8 million. He's great when he's healthy. He passed his physical, but we'll see if he holds up. Can't believe he got that much $$$.. especially from A's. Beane's made quite a few bonehead moves the past few years.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 26, 2010 -> 11:47 AM) 1. May not be a CF, but he can play the field. Thome could not play the field, so Kotsay still holds a distinct defensive advantage. Even .1 > 0 2. Thome may be slightly better offensively than Kotsay this year, its hard to tell given Thome's decline over the past few years. I think that when you account that Thome offers nothing outside of offense, there is a much greater risk with him as an asset compared to Kotsay. At least if Kotsay hits for nothing, he can do something productive. 3. Kotsay may not start, but Im pretty sure that he could find a place on the bench for the Twins. Which is the role he will have on the Sox, unless he plays like the end of last year, and then Im fine with him starting every day. 4. How can you say Kotsay's best years are behind him when we are talking about Thome who turns 40 by the end of the season? Kotsay just turned 34, which is younger than when the Sox acquired Thome. If anything Kotsay will regress but he has a lessor chance of falling of the deep end like Thome could. Honestly I don't want Kotsay or Thome starting on this team, and neither will. I can see Jones getting the most starts unless he bombs really.. really bad. Then a move will be made. Kotsay is on the bench to backup Konerko, Jones, and OF.

Cubs sign Xavier Nady over Dye pending physical..... I was hoping the Sox went after Nady, but now the Cubs got him, his elbows probably toast and won't be able to throw.

Cubs sign Xavier Nady over Dye pending physical... may fail because of elbow. (Tommy John last year)

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 26, 2010 -> 11:35 AM) Wow, not a good 24 hours of PR for the White Sox if that's true. For sure... it'd be tough to see Dye on Cubs and Thome on the Twins.