Chicago White Sox

I know it's early, but all full season affiliates currently being one-hit.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 06:45 PM) Pretty sure it works when you get sent down after spring training. AKA you get optioned to AAA once you are on the 40 man roster. That's my understanding as well.

QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 05:05 PM) There is nothing that can be done about that now. He'll have 2 option years left after this one. But aren't we using one this year? I would have thought he'd only have one option yet after this year.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 04:59 PM) It is way too early to quit on Fulmer. He was drafted just two years ago. By all rights the dude should still be somewhere around AA. How many options does Fulmer have left? It really was stupid calling him up last year and starting the clock when he clearly wasn't ready.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 04:26 PM) Better to have this happen now than if he were in the MLB eating away service time In all honestly, if this was inevitable then the timing is perfect. Doesn't change our control over him and pushes back his start date with the team closer to when we should be competitive. Just got to hope he comes back 100%.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 01:22 PM) Hmph, their opening day payroll was listed as $199 million and they haven't cut money, so yeah there's got to be some weird luxury tax level rules that move how things are calculated around. Contracts are straight-lined for luxury tax purposes, so their actual payroll should always be higher than luxury tax figure.

I fully expect Frazier being to traded to the Red Sox in the coming days. I just don't see Dombrowski playing poker with us when Todd is the best available 3B out there. I'm also sticking with my prediction that C.J. Chatham will be the return.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 06:21 AM) I actually wish Hahn would not say things like "This was by far the best offer we had." I'm struggling to understand the purpose of that. It would seem there is no need to embarass the Cubs that way, and secondly, no need to show other GMs that the market for prospects is as weak as it apparently is. Yeah I too thought it was a strange comment, although I'm guessing he made it catering to the meatball fans who wouldn't like us dealing with the Cubs.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 05:01 PM) Eloy is in the Winston Salem lineup tonight, will be webcast on MILBtv Awesome!

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 04:33 PM) I love your posts, but I have to admit, this comes off as a bit presumptuous. Why should that be the goal? We've seen some crazy s*** just happen. Now we're going to immediately go back to saying that we're all crazy? I get it, Hahn isn't a miracle worker, but I, for one, am a little gunshy about saying something as prescriptive as you just did. We were just told by a few different posters something to the effect of "Guys, stop even bothering to think about a trade with the Cubs. It simply will never happen." Well, it just happened. Disclaimer: I am not meaning to insinuate this is all directed at you, CWS, you just happened to be the guy that triggered my rant. My apologies in advance. It's all good. Don't get me wrong, start with something ridiculous like Robertson & Kahnle for for Robles. If/when that doesn't fly, make a hard push for Soto in some capacity. All I'm saying is that getting Kieboom & Luzardo would be a very acceptable package to me for Robertson. I agree go for something better, but it's definitely something I'd be more than ok with if push came to shove. But now that Quintana has been successfully moved, I think Hahn has a little bit more ability to play some poker with his remaining chips. Much less pressure on him now than there was 24 hours ago.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 04:31 PM) The Yankees need a 1B bad. He doesn't have an albtross contract. They have a nice system that we are surely familiar with. The match is there. The Yankees just acquired Cooper from the Brewers. Don't think they plan to invest heavily into the position.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 04:21 PM) Agree. I would settle on that but definitely shoot higher. I'm super high on Kieboom. I know he didn't make BA's mid-season top 100 list, but Baseball Prospectus had him just missing their to 50. And in terms of need, he fits a huge gap in the system. Luzardo was also a huge over-slot signing coming out of the draft. I also like the fact he is young and would slot into Kannapolis' rotation next year.

The goal should be Robertson & cash for Kieboom & Luzardo. Hell, I'd probably throw Swarzak in too if necessary, although I'd probably want a lottery ticket added to the mix. Kieboom would provide us with a high-end prospect that could eventually fill in on the left side of the infield and Luzardo gives us a much needed left-handed arm.

I'll fully admit I was wrong for doubting Hahn. Waiting into the season ended up being the right call. Getting Jimenez is beyond is f***ing amazing. Baseball America recently recently called him the best overall hitting prospect in the minors. To get that type of talent for Quintana is absolutely incredible. I'm not sure there is a better headliner we could have got. Cease is a solid 2nd piece. Tons on upside and adds to our pitching depth. The rest of the package is underwhelming, but that doesn't matter. Getting a true blue chipper plus one other top 100 prospect is all that matters. Hahn did awesome here and deserves a ton of kudos.

When 72 hours I meant 72 seconds...I swear! But holy f*** it happened! Jimenez!?!?!?

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 08:20 AM) Let's not hold onto Kahnle I decided I'm starting to lean that way.

Jose Quintana will NOT be a member of the White within 72 hours. Dave wouldn't double-down on the smoke here unless he had something of substance.

It's funny to see how Cubs fans value Schwarber and how all other fanbase value him now. People on northsidebaseball.com were pissed at the thought of the Babe for Michael Fulmer. Where as every other fanbase thought it was a joke of an offer. I personally think he's overrated in Cubsdom, but will still be a very nice DH at some point. Certainly not a headliner for Q anymore though.

Amado Nunez bumped up to Great Falls.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 07:08 AM) Between Rodgers and Jimenez, who would you take first? SS and catcher are so key. We obviously can't get Turner, Seager, Correa, Lindor, etc. And Dansby Swanson has been a disaster this year, just like Timmy Anderson. Same with Bregman. Well, disappointing, at the very least. Tatis, Jr., haha? Russell and Baez are the obvious names. To get Jimenez and one of those two, who else do you give the Cubs? Kahnle? Swarzak? Holland? MiGo? Shields, writing off almost all of his remaining salary? Obvious Maddon connection there. Seems impossible to also get Candelario too, biting off a bit much. The Sox aren't giving up on Anderson, so I'm not sure why you're listing off a group of major league shortstops that aren't available. If Hahn was smart, he'd tried to get Kieboom for Robertson to serve an insurance in case Anderson isn't working out in a few years.

If Jimenez is on the table for sure. Can't pass up a top 5 or so prospect because of an inter-city rivalry, especially after the Cubs already ended their World Series drought.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 11:44 PM) Ahh, YOU'VE defended "some viewpoints in the past", but now YOU'VE decided you don't agree with other relevant viewpoints. Well, Admins, i find myself in agreement with many of the sentiments shared by this poster. Not every point of view, but many of them. But I'd never be so bold or disrespectful as to try and cut his point of view off simply because "I" didn't agree with his point of view, no matter how many times he tried to push them across. This has nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing with your viewpoint, it's about the fact that now you simply see the name Reinsdorf and go on a b**** fest. Your post had zero relevance to the subject at hand. You are now derailing conservations as part of your creepy personally ventedda against Reinsdorf. And the worst part is that despite getting called out by multiple posters, you can't acknowledge how bizarre and random your post was and instead go on the defensive of your viewpoint. We all get it, you think Reinsdorf sucks. For the love of god, stop bringing it up at the sight of his name. You are bringing nothing new to the table, you're simply recycling the same old points over and over again. It's behind annoying man.

Admins, I think it's time you finally ban Thad Bosley. I've defended some of his viewpoints in the past, but he's literally off his rocker and is now polluting random threads with his bizarre Reinsdorf hatred.

QUOTE (OklahomaBrave @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 11:10 PM) Other than the generational talent etc. etc. comments I think the main hold up on trading him is because he isn't able to be valued properly. A guy with a lot of hype, warranted or not, can't be the BIG centerpiece. We'd have to trade him as a 2nd/3rd piece when he could be a year and a half away from being the majority of a deal. So while I think they do love him, it's equally about recognizing its irresponsible to trade an asset before it reaches maturation. From the Sox perspective, no matter how much talent Maitan has, it would be equally irresponsible to accept such an unknown quantity as a headliner. I'm sure they'd love him as a second piece, but Braves wouldn't consider that. This is a great post and I 100% agree.

QUOTE (OklahomaBrave @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 11:03 PM) If it is the Cubs, hope for Victor Carantini as a 3rd/4th piece. Recent helium and is blocked. Honestly, I was just thinking about him earlier tonight. Given our catching situation, he'd be a great guy to target at the back end of the deal.