Chicago White Sox

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 21, 2015 -> 12:54 PM) Not sure about Alexei. But the loss of qwerty/Kalapse has GREATLY affected me. Haven't been right since. Wow, can you not make a single post that doesn't involve dick sucking? If it's not LeBron or the Cubs, it's random Soxtalk posters.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Jun 21, 2015 -> 02:11 AM) I don't think going with the Wii brand was a bad idea at all. Not simply calling it the Wii 2 was stupid. When I first heard about the Wii U I thought it was a f***ing add on, not a whole new console. The name may have killed it before it had a chance. Going with Wii 2 is something that is clear to the audience and everyone will know it's the new version. Wii U sounded like a college version of the original. I agree with your logic here, the Wii 2 or something like Super Wii would have been way better. Like you said, the Wii U sounds like an add-on and when it was announced, everything focused on the controller. It really seemed like a new peripheral for the Wii. And even when more details were, announced the fact all your Wii stuff could still be used added confusion. Having said that, the Wii U was never going to resonate with the casual audience, which is why I think keeping the Wii brand was a mistake. The controller was expensive and its theoretical benefits should have been for hardcore gamers. Nintendo tried to get that causal audience anyways with Nintendoland, but it was never going to be another Wii Sports. Ultimately, they tried to leverage the Wii brand, but failed to build an offering at a price point that would appeal to the same customers.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 20, 2015 -> 01:08 PM) 1. I posted the link. You could choose not to follow it. 2. I feel understanding the thoughts that leads people to become terrorists is important in building a society that doesn't breed them. We turn our backs on the hatred people spew on a daily basis then when it comes back in the form of a terrorist with a gun we raise our hands and say "oh how could we have known". The guy is clearly a mentally-ill individual who convinced himself that blacks were evil. Did you honestly need to read his manifesto to know that out? And now that you did, have you figured out how to build a society that doesn't breed these "terrorists" as you refer to them as? What did you learn from his manifesto that we can use stop these attacks going forward?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 20, 2015 -> 11:57 AM) Gawker posted at least a large portion of the text in their article on it. Why don't you stop bringing attention to this piece of s*** and avoid spreading his hate manifesto? The publicity these killers get is oftentimes equally or even more important than the lives they take. I get you must tie every tragedy into your political agenda, but can you please do without posting this garbage?

Robin had the guys come an hour late to the stadium today. Not sure what to think about that, but figured I would share.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 20, 2015 -> 09:34 AM) Which is, to note, another indictment of the White Sox coaching and development. Other teams are ok with figuring out how to develop Phegley and Semien, we get them up quickly, decide we don't like them, declare them unteachable, and then move on. I think we should all wait until the season is over before jumping to any conclusions on Semien & Phegley. Marcus' offensive numbers aren't nearly as impressive as they were earlier this year and I don't believe for a second Josh is a major league catcher if you factor in pitch-calling and other defensive elements that are hard to quantify.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 20, 2015 -> 08:50 AM) I don't even know if I should post this....We have a new hire in our IT department, so take this with a huge grain of salt, buy she claims to know Samardjiza and said he will be traded in the next week. If you want him traded, I wouldn't get my hopes up. I cannot verify if this is accurate for a week. While I'd be surprised if the front office was that forward with Shark, it would make a lot of sense to put him on the market ASAP if you want to maximize your return.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 20, 2015 -> 08:26 AM) Yes I would make that trade. I'm not one of the guys advocating trading Quintana though. If that were the package, I'd definitely do it though. Yeah, I'd hate to trade Quintana for obvious reasons, but getting two guys that are pretty much major league ready with tons of upside in Schwarber & Baez would have to make you consider it. For the Cubs, these two plus Vogelbach are somewhat spare parts. Doesn't mean they have to move them for Quintana, but I see some or all of these guys being used to acquire a frontline starting pitcher at some point. I'd say the matchup is pretty good between us and them. If we could resign Shark to a reasonable extension, then I would do the trade. We'd still have a 1-2-3 of Sale/Shark/Rodon with Johnson, Danish, Montas, & Fulmer in the mix for 2016/2017.

QUOTE (bulokis @ Jun 20, 2015 -> 12:10 AM) trade him back to the Cubs, get some of those hitting prospects they have Real talk, but would people here trade Quintana for Schwarber, Baez, & Vogelbach? Would the Cubs even consider this? Unfortunately, I think our best bet for a quick turnaround may be trading Quintana for a couple major league ready hitting prospects and resigning Shark to an extension. Just don't think we'll get enough value for Shark to move the needle.

QUOTE (onedude @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 09:53 PM) Lol...fair? The Sox are last in almost every offensive category. It would be unfair to keep him on the team...along with a few others Let's be honest, the failures primarily fall on the players. Having said that, it's Steverson's job to improve guys' approaches at the plate, especially if they're pressing. He's clearly not adding any value right now, so there's nothing to lose, but I'm not sure he deserves to be the first guy to go. Flowers & Sanchez both deserve to go before him IMO. That's why I said fair.

Mods, can we add a poll here? Would really like to see people's thoughts on this.

At some point, the hitting coach has to be accountable for the epic failures of this offense. May not be fair, but there's nothing to lose at this point. I say shake things up and hope the offense responds.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 09:36 PM) Sale was cruising and had no high stress innings tonight. I really don't get pulling him with the way he was throwing. 100% agree. Not a fan of normally going that high on the pitch count, but he's also our stopper and would have very likely won us the game tonight if he kept Chris in. Any small sliver of hope of a turnaround ended tonight.

There's really no reason to keep Steverson around at this point. The entire lineup is underperforming and it's not entirely due to a lack of talent. Half of the team has terrible approaches at the plate and part of that falls on the hitting coach. May not be fair, but there is no downside it firing him and maybe it finally wakes up these f***s.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 09:01 PM) At this point the game is a must-win and you give Chris a chance to close it out despite his pitch count. I stand by this comment. Hopefully Eaton here can save our asses, but I think pulling Sale was an incredibly stupid decision.

At this point the game is a must-win and you give Chris a chance to close it out despite his pitch count.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 08:53 PM) They sold more tickets than usual this winter. School is out. It is supposed to be warm. The crowds are going to be bigger. And we've lost seven straight, which usually puts a damper on crowd size. However, upon further research, the answer was mullet night.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 08:52 PM) Can Melky go on the DL so Thompson can get a chance I'd like to see Thompson get another month in AAA before I consider calling him up. He's had a history of short hot stretches followed by extended periods of failure. Come late July and he's still doing well, then call him up and find a way to get him some at-bats.

Is there a promotion going on tonight? Why are so many people at this game?

For the love of God, please get a run here!

You can't have a fire sale when there's not much to sell. Shark & Alexei will have some value and maybe Robertson and the cheap bullpen arms could be moved, but there isn't anything worth a ton outside of the core (Sale/Quintana/Rodon/Abreu). Unless you go full-rebuild, which I think is a horrible idea, we're kind of stuck for the time-being. However, you got to find a way to get our young guys some playing time. That means Micah at 2B, Sanchez at SS (worth a look IMO), Thompson in the OF (not sure where/how), & Erik Johnson in the rotation. Maybe consider guys like Davidson, Saladino, Kevan Smith, & Beck depending on where they are at a month from now. The key is we need know if any of these guys have a chance of being 2016 contributors.

QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 05:17 AM) AZL roster has been updated. Alfaro, Nunez and Mercedes all on there as well as Yosmer Solorzano. Andres Sanchez is with Great Falls too. A little surprising that they're going to be so aggressive will all these guys. I though Micker was a one-off last year as he already spoke English, but evidently not. Blake Hickman listed at catcher is odd, though likely just a mistake, and they also have him on the 60-day DL. Alfaro's ago also appears to be incorrect as it was previously reported as 1997, not 1995. So 5 of 8 six figure signings from the 2014 period are now in the U.S., along with 2 of 3 from 2013 & 4 of 6 from 2012. It's crazy to think we'll finally have an influx of international talent in the system. Let's hope a few of these guys turn out to be more than filler.

Chris Sale (6-3, 3.01 ERA) vs Colby Lewis (6-3, 4.37 ERA)

Sox win 1-0 tonight. Shark with the complete game shutout.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 11:33 AM) Jaye? I caught him in person last season and was far more impressed by Beck. Thought he might have a shot as another of our starter-to-bullpen guys. Don't forget we also got rid of Teahen's contract and saved $10million on that deal, so it also turned into $10 million. And received Zach Stewart who would eventually help us get Youk. Sucks we wasted value on dumping Teahen, but getting Webb & Jaye for Frasor down the road was excellent. If anyone is b****ing about that particular trade they are clueless.