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QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 04:24 PM) Normally I'd be concerned with the additional work / innings but hell he may not even be with the Sox by then. Mark Normally I'd be concerned with the additional work / innings but hell he may not even be with the Sox by then. Mark Que the "Get the papers" joke.

This is starting to feel like we're buyers and not sellers.

This seems far fetched, but if Barack Obama became part of them White Sox ownership, I'd buy season tickets the day they went on sale. In a heartbeat. No hesitation.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Nov 22, 2016 -> 12:11 PM) Does that affect his trade value??? I would say so. I mean would you want a guy embarrassing the team by cutting up uniforms he doesn't want to wear or throwing temper tantrums when his buddies are traded?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 22, 2016 -> 10:25 AM) Sale is a slightly better pitcher, Quintana is very close and is under team control for longer. If I assume that each of them will repeat last season's WAR numbers, Quintana provides more overall value and more surplus value under this current contract. One game yeah I pick Sale. Trading for the guy and looking at multiple seasons? Plus Quintana isn't going to be slicing up uniforms in your locker room.

If we get a good return, I won't be all that upset. I wouldn't call him a cancer, but I think he's immature and would probably be a bully to younger guys coming up. And I hate disrespect to the manager and front office. I'd like to see him in the National league preventing that team on the northside of the city winning multiple championships.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 06:39 PM) whitesoxdave ‏@barstoolWSD 13s14 seconds ago Rumor on the hot stove is the #Dodgers and #WhiteSox are discussing Sale & Frazier in a package deal to LA for a big prospect return Do the Dodgers have enough prospects for both of them? I'd be happy with Sale to the Dodgers. He'd be out of the AL and Kershaw and Sale would be hard for that north side team to beat in the playoffs.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 10, 2016 -> 03:47 PM) I think he was looking at it as more of a going to the ballpark and watching the games stand point. If they trotted that starting lineup that was posted on the previous page out there most of the season, I certainly wouldn't go to games and likely not watch. Of course, there would be some good MLB ready prospects brought back in the deals so we shouldn't have to worry about seeing that kind of lineup. I see what you're saying, but still... a rebuild is a rebuild. I know it would suck to see them lose almost every game, but if it's going to get higher draft pics then I'm all for it. We'd be losing anyway, right?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 10, 2016 -> 03:02 PM) It's one thing if you have a top prospect or 2 sprinkled in. But that line up is beyond putrid. It's one thing to be bad. It's another thing to be lucky to win 40 games bad. I wouldn't mind. To me, there isn't much difference between 40 wins and 65-70 wins. As a matter of fact, I'd rather win 40 games and get the #1 pick in the draft for a few years.

Sale is the linchpin that opens the floodgates. I don't think the rebuild starts unless they're pleased with the offer they get for Sale.

QUOTE (beautox @ Nov 8, 2016 -> 05:05 PM) I look forward to a full on fire sale and watching my 2 and a half year old grow up with a new core. The Kids Can Play PT. II Having said all that I'm on the fence with regards to selling Eaton, but his value is at an all time high and he could return a haul that rivals Q's and Sales and I doubt he wants to spend the next two to three years on a rebuilding roster so ship him off to Washington. I'd sell him if we could get more prospects. Plus would you want Adam Eaton to be the locker room leader of a bunch of kids?

I went to one game last year... it was late in the season and it was awful. No energy, no excitement, no enthusiasm. It was dreadfully boring. If they do a full rebuild and get some young talent, I'll go to at least 10 games - I don't care if they have 100 losses. I'm excited about fresh new talent in the organization. Just imagine how cool it's going to be to anticipate the arrival of a young stud who's raking in the minors. Imagine call ups being covered by the national media. I can't wait.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 7, 2016 -> 07:28 PM) Why the hell wouldn't you move Eaton too? Right... move him too. I used to think about saving only Tim Anderson and Carlos Rodon, but I'd ship them out too if the package was right. No one should be safe.

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 7, 2016 -> 04:14 PM) "Let's try to drive down price of Sale" As much as I want a full tear down and rebuild, I'd rather keep him before I gave him away for an unworthy package. After the LaRoche debacle, a fan of that north side baseball club called into the Score saying that the team on the north side should offer Dan Vogelbach straight up for Chris Sale to "help the Sox out and take Sale out of their clubhouse". I wanted to punch the radio.

QUOTE (SonofaRoache @ Nov 6, 2016 -> 09:03 PM) Well the Sox won a world series doing it this way. The reality is they cannot afford a rebuild at this time. They can trade sale for some talent but a full rebuild would destroy their finances as I said before. Fans will not watch or go to the ball park to see 4 years of rebuilding baseball. It just wont happen. And with the Cubs being a great championship team non die hard fans will just watch them instead. If they make some tweaks they can compete for a wild card. With two wild cards most competent teams will be interesting for a season. We blew a lot of games this year we should have won and with 3 top flight starters we will be in a lot of games. And if we could sneak into the playoffs Sale, Q, Rodon would be just as good as what Cleveland trots out there. Odds are low they will win it all but odds are also low of them winning it all after a rebuild. This has been the story for some time now, but I'm not buying it anymore. Now I think fans are even less likely to show up to watch the same boring team stuck in neutral. I know I'd be excited to watch a bunch of young future studs get out there and at least make us feel optimistic about the future.

I love the White Sox, but that song is horrible. It sounds like it's from an era when black people weren't allowed to play baseball in the MLB. No thank you.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 4, 2016 -> 08:46 AM) Davis as a 4th OF/platoon partner with Tilson/pinch runner I'd take. Expecially if we go a rebuild route. If you're doing a full rebuild, why give sign a vet like Davis and give him at bats and playing time? Give that to a young prospect who's trying to prove himself. We might get a late bloomer.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 01:22 AM) It's going to be that way for some time. They kept the same non productive scouts, minor league director, coaches, everything that is not productive. They can't scout at all. I may go into Sox fan exile. There are other teams so there is no reason to lose interest in a sport you love dearly. I do admire what Ricketts has done. This is such a dream come true for him. I wish some other organization was interested in Kenny Williams. I hate the Ricketts and I'll never EVER be a fan of that team. I'd sooner be a Giants or a Blue Jays fan if I couldn't be a White Sox fan anymore. I'm not leaving though... I'm here to stay.

This God forsaken baseball season is finally over. I can't remember there ever being a worse ending to such a bad season. I'll always be a White Sox fan though... I'll never EVER switch over to that other team up north who I still refuse to name. Our FO really needs to get their s*** together. I'm sick of being bad. I'm sick of losing. I'm REALLY sick of being ignored.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 03:23 PM) A handful of guys drafted in front of him, and handful of guys drafted within the next 10 after him were busts too. Every team has draft busts...and thankfully, the Sox haven't had many of them since Hawkins. True and that makes me feel a little better.

13th overall pick. I hate that this team hasn't been able to evaluate talent.

Seems like Wilson Ramos would be hesitant to go to a new team when he needs to reestablish value next year. I would think that he'd want to go back to where he's most comfortable.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Oct 27, 2016 -> 01:47 PM) You guys are missing the point of this thread. Live in fantasy land where JR is a billionaire and gives Rick an open budget. For s***s and giggles make the team you'd want. I get it but there isn't even enough free agent talent out there this year to make this team a favorite to win it all.

Funny this thread popped up. I was just looking at the list of 2017 MLB free agents and I tried to build a team based off of who'll be available. Good god... I really want a full blown rebuild.

Cespedes will use the White Sox as leverage again and go re sign with the Mets. Again. No thank you. Not interested. Blow the whole thing to smithereens and let the kids play.