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QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Oct 19, 2006 -> 03:39 PM) Yeah I'm definitely not understanding why you would move Ichiro to LF. While on the topic, sorta...how is the Mariner's OF, depth wise? I know they're high on Jones, and Reed's there...but what are their feelings on Snelling? He was the M's #4 prospect coming into the year, but he had a horrible year at Tacoma, so I'm mainly curious as to if they are still very high on him or not. And if not, how high would their interest level be in Anderson? Snelling did quite well IIRC when he was up with the Mariners over the past couple of months of the season. Still he's a guy they wouldn't be relying on because he's just so injury prone. He'd be a very good 4th OF for them though. You really can't afford to have an OF with Reed and Snelling playing everyday in it considering how bad offensively the M's are. So I wouldn't really think they'd have a great interest in Anderson, considering how much of an upgrade they need from somewhere in their lineup.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Oct 19, 2006 -> 12:02 AM) What's the future like? Not good. Work today unfortunately.

And welcome to Thursday for me (well just about anyways).

Probably best to try and get an aisle seat when you book in, so you're not looking outside at things like the wing. Make sure you have some good entertainment with you, so at least you're concentrating on that (things like I-Pods etc.) You could always take a sleeping pill as well maybe.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Oct 18, 2006 -> 07:34 PM) The problem with your scenario dbaho, is we just can't go into the season without a 5th starter. Also, out of the 3 sluggers Kong is the one I'd least like to move because of the fact imo he's more of a sure thing than Dye and Thome and he's signed at a very reasonable price over the next 4 years. Absolutely no reason to trade Konerko imo. Well I mean you could always sign Pierre to play LF (gulp) and you don't have to move Contreras to the Rangers, so you have 5 starters that way. Instead you could try to move Fields to say pick up a very good reliever and a good young arm or 2. e.g Fields for Carillo and Scott Cassidy

On these points you've made Santo; 1) Right now the Yanks prob wouldn't accept Crede and Garcia. But if the Angels won't include Ervin Santana in a deal, are the Yanks going to get a better offer from a team like the Cubs than the Crede and Garcia offer? Personally I don't think so. 2) Danks is a potential top of the rotation starter. Tampa Bay have said the only way they will deal Crawford is if they can get a potential top of the rotation starter back in return. Danks gives them that, and Fields will be a building block at 3rd for them. Arias gives you a future SS as well if he can pick it up at AAA next season, apparently he's pretty good defensively from what I've read IIRC. 3) How did Tadahito Iguchi work out for us? Consider Iguchi's OPS's from his last 4 seasons in Japan, .821, .740, 1.011 and .942, from age 26 to 29. In the 2 seasons with us he's put up a .780 OPS and a .774 OPS. Not great but that number could certainly go up if he was in a more run producing spot. Now in the last 3 seasons, Iwamura has OPS's of .968, .946 and I couldn't find what he got this season (but I assume over .900 since he had another .300/30HR season). He's also a lefty bat to boot. Remember that we should be utilising the Japanese Market as much as possible considering the good reputation we have from having Shingo and Iguchi here. Iwamura's only 27 and coming into the prime of his career. It's something I think we should definitely look at if we're going to move Crede. 4) The 5th starter is obviously probably the big issue here. But I mean the Sox can always dip into the FA market and sign a stopgap if need be. Sign someone like Mark Mulder even though he may not start the season on a real incentive like deal for 1 season, and you can have a guy like Broadway start off the season for a month or 2. QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Oct 18, 2006 -> 03:18 PM) What about a package of Kong and Garcia for A Rod? Gload could take over for Kong at 1st and A Rod would more than make up for Kong's offensive #'s. Plus the cash you save from dealing those 2 will be enough to cover A Rod. Just a thought... instead of making a huge hole at 3rd base. I'd rather move Thome instead of Konerko, but that's just me, and I'm a big Jim Thome fan (who isn't the most popular Sox player on here over the past few months).

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Oct 18, 2006 -> 01:04 PM) Which is what we don't want to do. The last part of my scenario I assume you're saying?

I see Billy Kidman and Torrie Wilson are divorcing. No longer envy Kidman so much now, but things like this are sad to see.

Crede and Garcia for A-Rod. Contreras for Danks and Arias. Danks and Fields for Crawford. Sign Iwamura to take over at 3rd base. So salary going out is (from this season); Contreras - 8M Crede - 2.675M Garcia - 9M Total = About 20M Salary coming in (2007 salary); A-Rod - 18M (could get that figure down to 15M if traded maybe?) Crawford - 4M Iwamura - Hard to say, maybe 5-6M for a few seasons? Total = About 24M-28M The thing is with this scenario though, our starters are basically down to Buehrle, Vazquez, Garland and B-Mac. So you'd have to sign a 5th starter or give it to a Lance Broadway or Charlie Haeger.

QUOTE(shipps @ Oct 17, 2006 -> 06:59 PM) Jimmy Rollins would be ideal for us off that list ,everybody else ,eh.Julio Lugo might be a good fit even though i think he has some character issues.Dont want Arod not for what we will have to give up.Joe Crede would be a perfect fit for the Yanks,clutch hitter doesnt mind the spotlight being on him on the field. Also saw this just before; So maybe they could be open to moving Rollins, especially if they can't move Burrell's contract.

The Cubs would probably have to include the likes of Ramirez, Rich Hill and Scott Eyre to at least get the Yanks thinking about an offer. But I'm still on the Garcia and Crede for A-Rod deal bandwagon if there's going to be a deal done here.

So if Uribe ain't going to be our SS next season (and that's a definite possibility, just look at what happened to Urbina), it's time to look at alternatives in the trade and FA market. First the FA's; Alex Gonzalez - .255/.299/.397 Alex Cora - .238/.312/.298 Julio Lugo - .278/.341/.421 Craig Counsell - .255/.327/.347 And the trade market; Jimmy Rollins - .277/.334/.478 Omar Vizquel - .295/.361/.389 Alex Rodriguez - .290/.392/.523 Cristian Guzman - Didn't play this season (.219/.260/.314 in 05) Clint Barmes - .220/.264/.335 Erick Aybar - .250/.250/.325 (only 40 AB's) Maicer Izturis - .293/.365/.412 You probably acquire a guy like Guzman for basically nothing considering he's got 4M for 2 seasons left on his deal and he doesn't fit into the Nats plans. The Sox could bank on trading for a guy whose value is down like Barmes or Guzman who are being replaced by others and hope they could contribute to the numbers that they have reached before. If there was a way to acquire Izturis, that would be a good way to go, but I don't think the Angels are going to be giving him up somehow.

QUOTE(SnB @ Oct 17, 2006 -> 02:12 AM) wait, and it's not even me? I don't think you'll ever be an admin Steve. QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Oct 17, 2006 -> 12:30 AM) So a certain admin here is recruiting me for facebook. And if you join up, you can see wonderful photos of me (now there's a selling point for ya).

Yeah uhhh so who wants to crown Chicago's ass right now?

Well Done Rackers.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Oct 16, 2006 -> 12:08 AM) Source? New York Daily News I think. It's one of the main stories on prosportsdaily.com.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Oct 15, 2006 -> 11:29 PM) So I went to like this haunted village thingy last night(ya, I'm a loser) and walking through, they put you through this trailor and a bunch of the scream characters are just sitting there. So anyways, cause that part was kind of ridiculous I go to one of the guys in the scream masks "hey, you're those scream guys, you kill people right?" The guy goes "HELL YA," that was probably the best part of the whole night. Your story reminds me of a time when I went in one of those Haunted House Rides at a Theme Park in Malaysia on the outskirts of Kuala Lumpur a few years back. But basically, this was the crappiest ride I have ever been on in my life, there was basically nothing inside there. I remember when I came out of there, I couldn't stop myself laughing very loudly at how terribly stupid that was, and the people there were looking at me like I was crazy or something.

Hmmm this should be an interesting discussion;

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Oct 15, 2006 -> 04:08 PM) I'm not quite Kalapse level of genius, but I like to believe I'm a notch below. Criticize all you want, but realistically, how can you ignore our deficiencies on this issue? Thirty percent of major leaguers originate from Latin America, yet we haven't signed and developed a contributing player from this area in 10 years? We're not the damn Royals. This is embarrassing, and needs to change. Travel south of Florida and give yourself a chance to develop pitchers who are out of reach in the draft. Sounds to me like a realistic way of upgrade the starting pitching. May take years for results to arrive, but devoting resources to this issue would prove more beneficial than any ridiculous FA shopping spree. And this is what I get worried with you here Flash. Results aren't going to happen overnight if we put more $$$ in the region. Are you going to keep saying "Where's our Liriano" over the next 5-10 years if we don't develop a stud from the region, even though we may be able to develop some fairly solid players (who may be traded because you know KW likes to do that)?

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QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Oct 15, 2006 -> 04:20 AM) I didn't get home till 4:30 and got up early and am gonna be up till about 3 tonight. I NEED SLEEP Living the life of the party there Gage?

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Oct 15, 2006 -> 12:20 AM) My current job or standup comic. Just like Principal Skinner; Skinner - So, it's, uh, standardized testing time again. Have you ever noticed how the dumb kids fill in the wrong circles? Skinner - How come you always run out of tardy slips before you run out of permission slips?

Ended up watching the 1st 6 episodes of the British Series last night. Now that's QUALITY.

Yeah it's quite important to get an experienced guy in there next to Ozzie who can actually help him manage the situations in the game like the bullpen e.g don't use a lefty just because there's a lefty hitting etc.

General Manager of the Arizona Diamondbacks.