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QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 18, 2017 -> 02:42 PM) Lance Lynn is going to make a looooot of money. I highly doubt he's taking a 1 year deal. Yep, he is not like the others. Never been a big Lynn fan, and he's on the wrong side of the 30, but hes getting more years and dollars than the Sox will be offering (anyone).

SP: CC Sabathia, Jeremy Hellickson, Andrew Cashner, Jason Vargas, Lance Lynn, Clay Bucholz, Jamie Garcia, Wade Miley, Tyler Chatwood, Tyson Ross, Henderson Alvarez, and Brett Anderson are all FA that could perhaps be interested in a 1 year deal. Interesting relievers that shouldn't be too xpensive: Francisco Liriano, Gregerson, Clippard, Tony Watson, Jesse Chavez, Sergio Romo, Fernando Rodney, Fernando Abad, Swarzak, Jeanmar Gomez. I think the Sox will mostly go with what they have on the offensive side. Too many guys need MLB at bats.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 18, 2017 -> 10:20 AM) You do have the Pelfrey slot about to open soon, and I am sure there will be some other roster managment moves made over the next month to clean it up a bit. We already saw Holmberg dumped once already. I have to imagine Volstad, Farquar and Albequeque aren't long for the roster either. I'd also guess that Brantley and one of the OFs (Rymer, Hansen, or Willy) are also purged. Yah I'd say all of these guys are probably gone shortly after the season ends: Alburquerque, Beck, Farquhar, Holmberg, Volstad, and Brantley. That would put the 40 man at 32.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 8, 2017 -> 01:01 PM) I'm fascinated by the fact that this was all written without any mention of Delmonico. My guess is the Sox value defense a bit more next season than they did this year. That means Delmonico DHs most of the time next year. The thing about that is then what about Davidson? Pretty clear to me that the Sox don't love Davidson at 3B, or he'd be getting more time over there in what are basically meaningless games. 3B has pretty much been Yolmer's over the past month, including since Davidson got off the DL. Maybe some of that has to with with Davidson's injury. My current opening day lineup projection: C: Narvaez / Smith 1B: Abreu 2B: Moncada SS: Anderson 3B: Davidson / Yolmer LF: Cordell CF: Engel RF: Avi DH: Delmonico / Davidson BN: Leury Garcia (supersub: gets 5 or so starts per week across CF, LF, 2B, SS and 3B), Smith/Narvaez, Yolmer and Willy Garcia or Rymer Liriano Staff: Rodon, Giolito, Lopez, Shields and Guerrero (or scrapheap FA like Chatwood) Pen: Jones, Minaya, Bummer, Goldberg, Danish, Fry and Connor Walsh or Brian Clark

No matter what pick the Sox end up with from 1-3, they're going to have an opportunity to get a great player. It just comes down to selecting the right one. Enlightening, I know - but really. What happens in the last 20 or so games happens.

This series is not going to result in a sweep, one way or the other.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Sep 7, 2017 -> 03:10 PM) Is Saladino still a guy who is in contention for a major league spot after this season? Offensively he's been utterly atrocious since April. Probably for now. If he doesn't have a good first half of next year, he's probably toast. Having an awesome glove helps.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 7, 2017 -> 01:57 PM) Leury Garcia can theoretically play 6 positions. Make him Zobrist. I agree with this. So much value to have him play everywhere. I don't mind him getting ~50% or so of his starts in LF next year, but don't take away his positional flexibility.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 7, 2017 -> 01:52 PM) These guys can all play next year, but all of them will have to improve in order for them to be regulars on a team the White Sox will sell as a contender. Engel will have to hit a bit. Leury is going to have to become a bit more baseball savvy. Hanson.....he just isn't a championship calibur player. I don't think Hanson will survive the winter on the 40 man.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Sep 6, 2017 -> 01:58 PM) Hope Cordell isn't the next Tilson. I think most of us expected to see him this year but it never happened. Yah back problems are no joke.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 6, 2017 -> 01:39 PM) AFter how little players like JD Martinez netted as a rental and legitimately great bat, I don't see us doing that. Maybe a catcher. I think we'll sign some camp invitee pitchers and a bunch of bullpen flyers, but I can't see us doing more than some waiver claims we don't mind losing if they are DFAd such as Asche and Liriano. Agreed. We could use a backend SP and some relief arms, but we have plenty of guys that need at bats. Don't really see the point in scrap heaping bats. Minors deals? Sure, go to town. But we need to continue to give Davidson, Delmonico, Leury, Cordell, etc., etc., at bats.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 6, 2017 -> 11:56 AM) I find it kinda odd how much we heard about Sanchez' arm being a detriment to being a true utility player (playing SS), and yet I've been watching him throw ropes from 3rd base every game. Sanchez playing all infield positions makes him absolutely bench player #1. He's too good and valuable to young pitchers. Just spitballing (leaving C out as thats a bit different beast) LF Cordell? CF L Garcia RF A Garcia 3b Davidson SS Anderson 3b Yoan 1b Abreu DH Delmonico Next tier priority Yolmer Cordell Gillaspie Fight it out W Garcia Engel Saladino Hansen Tilson (hahaha jk) Peterson Liriano J Peter If you are currently in that Fight It Out tier and in the big leagues, I'd just soak it in. Like this year, it very well may come down to who is out of options next year. We know that Davidson, Yolmer, and Leury are. Cordell and Gillaspie have been on a 40 man for at least 2 years, so they may be out of options next year. Pretty sure sure Liriano and Peterson will be as well. Not sure on Willy or Saladino (guessing Tyler is and Willy isn't). Engel, Tilson, Peter should all be able to be safely sent to AAA (Peter not even on 40 yet).

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 6, 2017 -> 10:29 AM) What a class act! https://www.instagram.com/p/BYtEJ-4gHVp/ He is a great dude. Wish him the best.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 5, 2017 -> 02:46 PM) Yeah, as long as you are paying him, you'll always need someone to eat innings, and if you aren't going to win, his mediocrity is fine as long as it doesn't get too out of hand. Like you wrote, since he changed arm angles, he has been a bit better. I actually saw a 94 on the board yesterday. The HR will still kill him. I saw an interesting idea on twitter a couple weeks ago about the Sox making him the closer next year. Now that may be a bit aggressive, but I do wonder if he could be decent reliever. Continue to drop that arm angle and perhaps he could add a few ticks on the radar and recreate himself as a pensman to finish off his career. I would imagine he would be open to the idea as he has to know his days in a major league rotation are numbered. Problem is, after Rodon, Giolito and Lopez...they run out of options. I suppose they could put Danish out there to start the season (to me he is clearly a reliever and should be put in the MLB pen next season) along with a scrap heap FA. If they really plan on pushing Kopech up early in the year, maybe that makes sense. But I just feel like Shields has a place in the rotation to start the season.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Sep 5, 2017 -> 02:34 PM) About time...wish they'd do the same to Shields. Shields has been relatively decent his last 6 starts since he dropped his arm angle. Definitely not great, but decent. Probably worth keeping him around in hopes someone will take him off our hands next summer. Super unlikely, but oh well.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 5, 2017 -> 01:57 PM) Do we know how that happened? Was he extremely lucky to start the year or was there an injury or velocity drop? It was mainly luck. His peripherals were always garbage.

QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Sep 5, 2017 -> 01:26 PM) Doesn't seem like the org is even concerned with 2018 draft position much. Because they released Holland? The Sox bullpen is still horrific. They're going to lose plenty of games. Top 4 pick is a lock, but Tigers coming on fast. Still think they'll finish with #3 pick.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 5, 2017 -> 01:14 PM) Merkin thinks that's it for additional call ups A little surprised no Goldberg. Other than that, not too surprising. I thought it was possible Danish would get a look out of the pen, but with his car accident, less surprising (even if injuries are indeed minor).

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 5, 2017 -> 01:12 PM) Holland was a good clubhouse presence and didn't blame anyone but himself. He wasn't going to be here next year so his release makes baseball sense. I have concerns about Beck and Pelfrey also Whats there to be concerned about? Neither will be on the team next season.

Gotta feel for Holland a bit. An A+ dude that took his struggles in stride. I followed him on snapchat all season and it was super cool to get an inside look inside the sox clubhouse, team plane, pregame activities, etc. Wish him the best.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 4, 2017 -> 04:09 PM) Myles Jaye is on the Tigers too. Earned that callup via a 1.6 WHIP in AAA. Gross.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Sep 5, 2017 -> 10:58 AM) I've been saying he'll probably end up at 1B for them next season anyway. I'd prefer to save 1B for a FA bopper when were ready. Or maybe Burger ends up there if we sign a 3B. We also have a few internal options at 1B, and gotta give Abreu some credit - he has improved over there this year. I wouldn't trade Avi for a 1B.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Sep 5, 2017 -> 08:48 AM) Suggesting this again: Ryan McMahon for Avi, who says no? If McMahon could actually play 3B, I'd be all over this. Unfortunately he can't.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Sep 3, 2017 -> 11:00 AM) Avi doesn't have the trade value yet. If the idea is to trade Avi then give him all of the 2018 season to boost his stock and then dangle him on the trade market over the 2018/19 winter as a much cheaper alternative to signing Harper. If the idea is to keep Avi long term, let's see how he performs next year and go from there. Great thing about Avi is that there's no pressure to trade or extend him. Just wait and see.. Exactly. I have no doubt that RH will be listening on Avi this offseason, but he is out in RF next season unless someone comes to the table with a top 50 guy the Sox like and an interesting secondary piece. Turning down an offer like that is too great a risk for me on Avi. But whether or not an offer like that will come to fruition remains to me seen - the market this trade deadline didn't offer that type of upside for a player like Avi. Will this winter be different? Could be. That said, I'm becoming more and more convinced that the Sox want to be decent next year. If Avi is moved, there is no realistic option for everyday at bats in RF if the Sox are interesting in fielding a team with 75 or more wins. I think the days of acquiring legit prospects for our veterans is over. Avi isn't getting moved this offseason and won't be until Eloy is ready next summer.

There will certainly be a couple more guys called up.