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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 01:42 PM) No shocks there. The Sox still have a couple of more spots they can open even as Pelfrey will be a FA, and a couple of other players who could go if needed out of the pen. Right. You got Pelfry, and then you have to imagine Beck, Farquhar and Alburquerque are all easy cuts. Then you still have Jacob May and Alen Hanson who likely aren't part of the future. That bring 40 man down to 27 before adding the likes of Eloy, Gillaspie, Peter, Clark, Guerrero, Polo, Basabe, and Walsh. Plenty of space to play with.

A little surprised about Liriano and Goldberg. The rest are not surprises. Does Goldberg need to pass through waivers to stay in the organization? I saw the post that says he remains in the organization as a non-roster player. How does that work - what is the difference between him, and say, Liriano. First time he's been outrighted perhaps?

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Oct 2, 2017 -> 03:53 PM) Wow that's a tough one! I mean technically it is under 3.5 but nobody goes beyond 1 decimal point. So who wins? You both have a case. Maybe it's a wash and you double the bet next year. What a bet. This blows my mind on many levels. What is his case? The number is 3.482 and he had the over of 3.5. Definitely won't be re-doing this bet next year. The daily updates I got from my friends and Buxton inched closer to 3.5 made it quite painful. Plus, the dude is really good. If he didn't start 2-50 or whatever, he would have been handily over 3.5. I'll take my winnings and move on. We do a Sox-Twins heads up win bet every year though that will continue. Not much suspense there this season.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Oct 2, 2017 -> 12:20 PM) I'm a subscriber but I don't see WAR past the first decimal. And I assume your bet was just based on fWAR? Because Buxton's rWAR is 5.1. Yes, fWar. Eno Saris confirmed for me. It is 3.48201.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Oct 2, 2017 -> 11:56 AM) If you did the calculation, isn't that the proof your friend is requiring? Yah, but he wants it from fangraphs. I don't necessarily blame him, we have some decent coin on the bet. He says that the numbers I am using to calculate it are also rounded, so it could change. Potentially true, but probably not enough to get it over 3.5. Basically we're just trying to find the number out two or three decimal places from fangraphs. Not sure if possible or not.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Oct 2, 2017 -> 11:46 AM) Wow, I'm not sure what's crazier, that he finished with 3.5 (after his 1st half) or if it really will come down to the rounding on your bet! Haha yah! Pretty wild it came down to this. I looked pretty safe 4-6 weeks ago. Especially safe in May! But Buxton is a real nice player. Definitely excited for this bet to be over....the daily updates from my friends got exhausting (I live in MN). But, I am a numbers guys, and pretty confident I did the equations correct. But of course he wants further evidence, so I am trying to oblige.

Can someone with Fangraphs subscription do me a quick favor? I had a bet with a buddy on Byron Buxton's fWAR being under 3.5. The website only publishes the number to the 1st decimal, at least to non-subscribers, and guess what...it landed right at 3.5. I did the actual math and came up wit 3.482, but I'd like to confirm with Fangraphs (seems I should be able to get it taken out one decimal place..it is definitely rounded on the website). Do they publish the numbers past the 10th decimal for subscribers? Any other idea on how I could confirm? Thanks in advance for any suggestions!

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Sep 28, 2017 -> 04:15 PM) Over/under how many weeks until he gets hurt again? Weeks? I am thinking days.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Sep 28, 2017 -> 03:40 PM) It's shoulder surgery, probably exploratory, (the dreaded) and will not be good. As I've said: anything we get from Rodon going forward should be considered a bonus. The default position, until proven otherwise, should be "he's done". Yikes, that a negative take.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 21, 2017 -> 02:05 PM) Why? Our fans have pointed out it's all a mirage. Why would other teams think otherwise and actually want him? That's what I don't understand. All the BABIP red flags. Only the Sox fans notice them? Nobody else? lolz.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 21, 2017 -> 01:32 PM) My gut tells me somewhere around 76-79 wins. Under .500 over the first half of the season, around or above .500 in the second half. Yah, but if Rodon, Giolito and Lopez are healthy, and Kopech really joins the club 4-6 weeks in, the pitching will just be too good lose 85-90 games. Giolito and Lopez will certainly take some lumps, but they're supremely talented. Bullpen would need some major improvement for it to matter, though.

Yah, I think I've actually convinced myself that they could be decent next year.

At this point I have to imagine the Sox will get some nice offers for Avi this winter.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 19, 2017 -> 01:00 PM) A few wild guesses for signings and invites: SP Hector Santiago Clay Buchholz RP Zach Duke Joe Blanton Ernesto Freiri Plus some unknown MiLB free agents and wire claims. Santiago is probably done. Was throwing low 80s in rehab starts with the Twins AAA team. Someone may sign him to a minors deal, but his time in the majors may be over.

Staff: Rodon, Giolito, Lopez, Shields and Guerrero (or scrapheap FA like Chatwood or Ross) Pen: Jones, Minaya, Bummer, Goldberg, Danish, Fry and Connor Walsh or Brian Clark

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Sep 18, 2017 -> 06:31 PM) Tyson Ross (could be a potential reliever). I think he is the most intriguing guy on the list. Could probably be had for a Holland type deal.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 18, 2017 -> 02:42 PM) Lance Lynn is going to make a looooot of money. I highly doubt he's taking a 1 year deal. Yep, he is not like the others. Never been a big Lynn fan, and he's on the wrong side of the 30, but hes getting more years and dollars than the Sox will be offering (anyone).

SP: CC Sabathia, Jeremy Hellickson, Andrew Cashner, Jason Vargas, Lance Lynn, Clay Bucholz, Jamie Garcia, Wade Miley, Tyler Chatwood, Tyson Ross, Henderson Alvarez, and Brett Anderson are all FA that could perhaps be interested in a 1 year deal. Interesting relievers that shouldn't be too xpensive: Francisco Liriano, Gregerson, Clippard, Tony Watson, Jesse Chavez, Sergio Romo, Fernando Rodney, Fernando Abad, Swarzak, Jeanmar Gomez. I think the Sox will mostly go with what they have on the offensive side. Too many guys need MLB at bats.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 18, 2017 -> 10:20 AM) You do have the Pelfrey slot about to open soon, and I am sure there will be some other roster managment moves made over the next month to clean it up a bit. We already saw Holmberg dumped once already. I have to imagine Volstad, Farquar and Albequeque aren't long for the roster either. I'd also guess that Brantley and one of the OFs (Rymer, Hansen, or Willy) are also purged. Yah I'd say all of these guys are probably gone shortly after the season ends: Alburquerque, Beck, Farquhar, Holmberg, Volstad, and Brantley. That would put the 40 man at 32.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 8, 2017 -> 01:01 PM) I'm fascinated by the fact that this was all written without any mention of Delmonico. My guess is the Sox value defense a bit more next season than they did this year. That means Delmonico DHs most of the time next year. The thing about that is then what about Davidson? Pretty clear to me that the Sox don't love Davidson at 3B, or he'd be getting more time over there in what are basically meaningless games. 3B has pretty much been Yolmer's over the past month, including since Davidson got off the DL. Maybe some of that has to with with Davidson's injury. My current opening day lineup projection: C: Narvaez / Smith 1B: Abreu 2B: Moncada SS: Anderson 3B: Davidson / Yolmer LF: Cordell CF: Engel RF: Avi DH: Delmonico / Davidson BN: Leury Garcia (supersub: gets 5 or so starts per week across CF, LF, 2B, SS and 3B), Smith/Narvaez, Yolmer and Willy Garcia or Rymer Liriano Staff: Rodon, Giolito, Lopez, Shields and Guerrero (or scrapheap FA like Chatwood) Pen: Jones, Minaya, Bummer, Goldberg, Danish, Fry and Connor Walsh or Brian Clark

No matter what pick the Sox end up with from 1-3, they're going to have an opportunity to get a great player. It just comes down to selecting the right one. Enlightening, I know - but really. What happens in the last 20 or so games happens.

This series is not going to result in a sweep, one way or the other.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Sep 7, 2017 -> 03:10 PM) Is Saladino still a guy who is in contention for a major league spot after this season? Offensively he's been utterly atrocious since April. Probably for now. If he doesn't have a good first half of next year, he's probably toast. Having an awesome glove helps.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 7, 2017 -> 01:57 PM) Leury Garcia can theoretically play 6 positions. Make him Zobrist. I agree with this. So much value to have him play everywhere. I don't mind him getting ~50% or so of his starts in LF next year, but don't take away his positional flexibility.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 7, 2017 -> 01:52 PM) These guys can all play next year, but all of them will have to improve in order for them to be regulars on a team the White Sox will sell as a contender. Engel will have to hit a bit. Leury is going to have to become a bit more baseball savvy. Hanson.....he just isn't a championship calibur player. I don't think Hanson will survive the winter on the 40 man.