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QUOTE (StRoostifer @ May 27, 2015 -> 02:04 PM) Samardzija is pitching better and as long as he continues to do so he should bring back a decent return. Color me overly optimistic but I think Alexei will heat up with the weather and turn himself into a trade candidate. Might fetch a decent return. That's about it as far as significant returns by trade, excluding core players like Sale, Q, Rodon, Abreu, Robertson and Avi. Just have to weather the storm Sox fans. You can trade Alexei but it may be a better investment to keep him. Who plays SS once he is gone. Unless you trade him ( or Shark) for a SS ML ready prospect, it may be better holding and letting the Charlotte infielders continue to develop. We have already learned that Sanchez and Johnson both needed more time in AAA before they were pushed into ML playing time.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 27, 2015 -> 03:26 PM) I'm expecting Thome. I think Tom Thibedeau will get the nod. He will be available and is a stronger personality than Robin.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 27, 2015 -> 01:28 PM) The entire organization needs turned over. Coaches, GM, minor league staff, all of them. This failure comes from every single one of those levels. Training staff has done a good job of keeping guys healthy. I think they should be retained

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ May 27, 2015 -> 03:38 PM) Stop batting him f***ing second? Yeah, Sanchez at under 200 would look good in the 2 hole

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 27, 2015 -> 11:06 AM) Cooper is the main one whose loyalty to the organization trumps his loyalty to Ventura (like Cora with Guillen). Buddy Bell would be another choice, or Nick Capra. Finally, McEwing or Salas if Ventura recommended they stay on in his place. (And I'm sure he wouldn't, not his style to be petty or vengeful). That's four. Personally, I would be happy with Cooper or McEwing (because he's a big LaRussa disciple, the equivalent of Martinez with Maddon almost). But no 2-3 year contracts for the interim manager. He's got to earn it. Otherwise, you wait until the offseason and do a full managerial search with due diligence and a full field of candidates, which hasn't happened since 2003-2004 with this organization. But if Cooper is the manager, then you need to hire a pitching coach. Juan Nieves. You cannot finish this season w 3 young pitchers in Sale, Q and Rodon not getting the full attention of a pitching coach. But Herm Schneider would still be the most experienced choice for manager. He would be a "safe" pick

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 27, 2015 -> 08:32 AM) At this point, there's almost nothing to lose. We're trailing every single team in the AL, other than the A's. If it doesn't work, we have the luxury of finding another manager in the off-season and "rebooting" again. Surely, Hahn has a "big board" of potential managers in mind as well. Who are you going to replace him with??? No one is coming in from outside the organization without a multi year contract. So in your rational, you hire another manager for will say 3 years and he doesn't work out so in the off-season you hire another one and have 3 on the payroll for next year. That ain't happening. So you have to hire within the organization. Harold Baines?? Buddy Bell?? Herm Schneider?? Kenny Williams??? How about Coop as interim manager for rest of year. Replace him with Nieves who is being paid by Boston anyway. OR you stcik w Robin, get a better draft pick and replace him in offseason when the number of candidates are much greater

I think there is an important question. This looks like a .500 team which many of us predicted. But there were other fans who projected 90 wins and are now ranting about everything being wrong. I think the big question is Robin. How big of a problem is he and his staff. If Robin is a big problem then you make minor moves and maybe Shark gets moved since he would be gone anyway. Maybe LaRoche can also be moved but probably as a salary dump with little return. You can't trade Alexei because you probably don't have an adequate replacement. If you want a catcher, the only tradeable assets are probably pitching i.e Q?? But that opens another hole. If Robin is not the main problem, then you need to blow up some more of the roster and continue the rebuild shooting for 2017.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ May 25, 2015 -> 05:08 PM) Zobrist has played poorly and has been on the DL. I'd give up something like what we gave up for Youkilis, which would be something like Leury and Scott Carroll. Buehrle isn't having all that great a year and getting paid plenty. I'd give up something like...Myles Jaye and Cleto for him. Problem is then you'd have to figure out what to do with Danks. Lucroy has been hurt, but you still demand something in terms of trade value, but you can't trade for last year's production. Something like Eddy Alvarez, Jace Fry, Davidson and one of Micah/Sanchez. Revised offer of Montas, Alvarez and Davidson. For Rosario I'd offer Trayce Thompson, Fry, Davidson and Nolan Sanburn. Can I see Hahn doing 2012 push for the playoffs type trading? Yes. But Don't expect big splashy pieces other than maybe Rosario or Lucroy. Untouchables for me would be Danish, Anderson and Adams. Zobrist would be a rental since he is a FA next year. Sox should not be involved in rentals based on their poor start.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 24, 2015 -> 07:16 PM) Well, obviously they're stuck with Ramirez until he heats up, and there's nobody ready to play SS in the system until 2017 anyway...and that's a HUGE if in Tim Anderson, who's still more likely to end up at 2B or LF from quite a few reports. (If we are out of it at some point, it would be nice to see what Saladino could do...well, just because he seems to be a good kid and has overcome a lot). Of course, Melky Cabrera will probably be blocking the playing time of youngsters like Anderson and Hawkins by that point. (Then again, we should probably expect the worst since the whole "we haven't produced a position player since Rowand/Crede/Ordonez/Lee thing" unless you count Marcus Semien). Semien may be worse defensively at SS than Johnson was at 2B

quote name='Greg Hibbard' date='May 24, 2015 -> 06:06 PM' post='3167764'] No, really, they don't. It's early days still. At the very minimum, they need to stay within 2-3-4 games of .500 for the next few weeks and hope KC and Detroit come back to earth a bit. At 70 games if they are 34-36, would you still rule them out? My answer would be "it depends on what record KC and Detroit have at that time." If either of those teams runs away and hides with this thing, it doesn't matter if the white sox win 77 or 93 games. We aren't seeing postseason play. I think there's very good starting pitching talent and enough hitting to make a run. Defense is still my main concern. I also think there is enough hitting to make a run. There was today. But they need probably 4-5 runs each game to win.............................

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ May 22, 2015 -> 01:08 PM) I think if you put Sanchez in the two hole he may be a little bit more patient. He's a smart baseball guy. Your kidding right??? Some genius in this organization called up Sanchez while he was in a slump in Charlotte. Besides his average dropping over 60 points, in 3 weeks his biggest problem all year in Charlotte was he seldom walks. He had 4 the first 6 weeks and none the last 3. But he was called up for defense so we now have a guy who won't hit his weight. He is not patient at the plate. Johnson wasn't ready defensively and Sanchez is not ready offensively.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ May 18, 2015 -> 12:47 AM) You know we could pretty much end Cleveland's season with a 4 game sweep. Wouldn't that be tasty. We are 4 games ahead of them. If they sweep us, would that pretty much end our season????

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ May 17, 2015 -> 12:26 AM) But then you watch Sanchez play late inning D tonight and go "Damn!!!". Dude belongs. Actually the timing is good. Now that Eaton seems to be hitting, the Sox can live w the 9th batter being a defensive spot.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 16, 2015 -> 09:36 PM) I wouldn't fault Ventura for benching Avi after that play. Time someone sets an example for these miscues. Good he didn't.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ May 15, 2015 -> 08:31 PM) This is being really overthought. Micah: Showed promise Bad defense Great speed Patient batter Below average numbers Carlos: Has hit in limited big league time Destroying AAA Good defender Will likely show better consistency with bat Micah needs tons of reps, especially on defense. Charlotte is a good place for that. Carlos gives us better defense and likely a better bat. Again, you need to look at his stats. He was not destroying AAA. He had a great April and first couple of days in May. But since then he hit .222 over the last 2 weeks so his average dropped 60 points. All year he has a very poor BB/SO. Hopefully we see the April hitter and not ther May one.

QUOTE (Señor Ding-Dong @ May 15, 2015 -> 02:01 PM) That's great, but why didn't you just say that instead of posting factually incorrect information? You said "in the month of May" several times but nothing about his last 10 games until now. Sorry. His stats page showed from 5/3 till 5/13. I thought it was the Month of May but they only show a player's last 10 games.

QUOTE (Señor Ding-Dong @ May 15, 2015 -> 12:11 PM) He's cooled down as of late, but I'm not sure where you're getting your information from. Look at your post. In his last 10 games going back to 5/3 he has hit .222.

QUOTE (Señor Ding-Dong @ May 14, 2015 -> 08:27 PM) What are you talking about? Sanchez is hitting .352 in the month of May. It's common knowledge that Sanchez has been tearing up AAA since his demotion, though he's cooled off lately, has an unsustainable BABiP, and rarely walks. Not sure what you are talking about. He tore up AAA in April. Sanchez is 10/45 in May for a .222 BA w no walks. His average in May has dropped from .407 to .344 in two weeks.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ May 14, 2015 -> 07:36 PM) Yea but we're trying to win this year. The FO feels we can win and I agree with them. While not overmatched at the plate, MJ's D has cost us some serious runs so far. I can think of like 10 off the top of my head and I haven't watched every game. And it's not just those plays...it's the fact that those plays have lead to our SPs having extended innings causing them to get shelled. We're going to be tight up the middle now and I think it'll be huge. CS just needs to foul off pitches with the bat and stay above .300 with the OBP. Based om his performance in May at Charlotte, hitting .222 and no walks, .300 OBP will be difficult to attain. His OBP last fall w the call-up. was .269. Hopefully he hits .250 but provides outstanding defense.

This sounds like strictly a defensive change because Sanchez has been in a slump all of May. He also has a terrible BB/SO ratio but he was hitting for average early on. Sounds like Beckham will be playing a bigger role

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 13, 2015 -> 04:56 PM) It only took 6 weeks to figure they needed more defense. Well, better late than never. Now you can do the obvious thing and exchange Micah for Sanchez. Bonifacio isn't that great at 2B. I am guessing Sanchez will not be up any time soon. He is having a bad month of May both in batting average and strikeouts.

I have posted on this site several times that I think the White Sox attendance issues is they do not have enough corporate sponsorship to supplement the walk up crowds. Who do you think is paying $50+ per ticket in Boston and New York? I am not even talking about corporate boxes. Businesses buy up many of the grandstand seats and use them for client and employee incentives.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 11, 2015 -> 10:54 PM) Does he miss the dugout? It's addictive and these guys have huge egos. Sox fans would worship him like Cub fans worship Maddon. Jerry will want Ozzie back. Hopefully Joey Cora is available as well.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 2, 2015 -> 12:04 AM) Sox are in no danger of moving. They'll draw 20,000 to 25000 on the average this year, so why fret? If the team ever gets good again people will come. That is assured. As long as the Sox want to remain this weird dysfunctional baseball team, Jeckyll/Hyde if you will, screw 'em. They'll still make money with the TV deal and the 20000 to 25,000 average attendance. I actually wonder if winning will solve the problem. The White Sox have been a losing team but they have 2 of the top stars of the game in Abreu and Sale. Now obviously Sale only goes every 5th day but last year Abreu was a stud and yet attendance declined. Good news is attendance is up a few thousand this year but they are still one of the worst drawing teams in baseball.

Trade him for a young starting catcher and an outfielder.