Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Oct 5, 2017 -> 01:03 PM) Yeah, I forgot about that. Or, I did a good job of erasing the image from my mind. Just as I have done a good job of erasing ALR's brief time with the White Sox lol

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Oct 5, 2017 -> 12:55 PM) I did not know the Sox had done that with LaRoche. I just figured that was the length he liked. It's a stupid rule, they are ball players not business exec's. ALR's beard was much bushier before he came over.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 5, 2017 -> 12:30 PM) That is actually a great example of why they don't do it. It was actually notable because NO ONE thought it would happen, and it shocked everyone to the point where no one had a bio prepped on him. Plus there is also the point of how well that worked out that needs mentioning. I would think a 25-year old who has hit good in the minors and plays more positions would be different than a 29-year old actually.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Oct 5, 2017 -> 12:18 PM) I'd be willing to bet Saladino is cut and Peter is on the MLB roster for us on Opening Day. Yeah I could see that. Especially if they end up going with a 3-man bench again. Those guys who can play both IF and OF are key on the bench.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 5, 2017 -> 12:22 PM) A 25 year old who couldn't even get time with this historically awful White Sox team. Teams are looking for star potential and big tools in the rule 5, not utility players. They can find those all over the place for pretty cheap. Yeah, like when we took Angel Sanchez in the Rule 5 draft like 4 years ago. (Sanchez was a 29-year old backup IF)

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Oct 5, 2017 -> 12:06 PM) Why is no one concerned about protecting Jake Peter? He's the type of guy who'd be taken immediately in the Rule 5 draft, and I'd rather see him get ML PAs and figure out what we have in him than see Saladino back out there again next year. I think Peter could be as good or better than Sanchez and offers the same positional versatility. I've just assumed that they will protect him as I think a team would definitely take him as a versatile bench piece.

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 5, 2017 -> 10:46 AM) Really can't pull for either. Kinda hate both teams. Hope Sale does well. Basically the entire AL side for me besides the Astros. Can't root for ALC and I'll never root for Yankees and Red Sox (unless they go to world series against the Cubs). NL side, I'm good with Nats or Diamondbacks in the World Series (but naturally, Dodgers over Cubs).

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Oct 5, 2017 -> 10:34 AM) Would anybody trade Kopech for Sale straight up right now? Probably everybody. But there's a realistic chance that not many would make the same trade at the end of 2018. Sure Sale will be coming off a CY and is ridiculous, but if Kopech keeps dominating, he might have similar peripherals and come at 600k per year. I know that's optimistic but it's not ludicrous. Just crazy to think about their value rankings could change as early as the end of 2018 or 2019. Glad we traded Sale when we did. I agree. His value would only go down after that point.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Oct 5, 2017 -> 09:41 AM) I would love to ditch the divisions with top three getting in and 4 and 5 play in game. Yeah and then everyone plays each other equal amount of times home and away (maybe still keep it where interleague is division against division).

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 5, 2017 -> 08:46 AM) Have I mentioned lately how wrong my instincts were about these play-in games? They're great. One of the best changes baseball has made in recent years. There was like that 3-4 years in a row when there had to be a game 163 that helped push it in this direction.

QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 11:29 PM) Padres kept 3 guys who barely played above rookie ball in the ML roster this season. They will continue to do that until they are ready to compete. That would probably be the only team that would take him #alltheamateurinternationalsignings

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Oct 5, 2017 -> 08:48 AM) Couldn't even imagine the thought... Summer time with a younger crowd (upper teens/early 20s) and likely more people. Would be insane. Each of us would know someone effected by a shooting of that magnitude in Chicago.

QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 06:14 PM) He's also said that he doesn't want to go through a rebuild. We'd certainly be further along and nearly out of rebuild mode by adding him, but we're not exactly a playoff team yet either. Who knows how he'd feel about us. I didn't mean to make it sound like I was pro-Stanton trade. I was just saying in general a team interested wouldn't need to sweeten it for him just because the Marlins have been a suckhole.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 01:53 PM) Which basically means he will need some sort of trade kicker. Not really. He's been vocal about hating the team and negativity around the organization as early as last week. His kicker is he finally grts the f*** out of that organization.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 04:10 PM) Even after what they've done in the last 10 months? I liked the Astros before that, now I want them swept out of the playoffs. Meh, I prefer Eloy. I'm not rooting for 2 ALC teams nor Red Sox and Yankees (unless they face the Cubs). As much as I want Sale and Q to win a World Series in their careers, hopefully it's with whoever they play for next.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 03:52 PM) 1) Players salaries continue to rise 2) payroll cap + luxury tax penalties allow less wiggle room than teams once had in their team payroll 3) more GM's declaring untouchables 4) players appear to be making their debuts at a younger age 5) GM's are looking to extend players before they peak and through their peak year's to avoid paying top dollar for free agents. These things lead be to believe the trend is beginning to change with more emphasis on prospects or at least keeping their top guys. Teams like the Dodgers and Yankees have shown in recent years their reluctance to trade their most coveted prospects which is the opposite of how those teams operated in the past. The Sale trade was so unique that it probably was only going to happen with Boston. There were so many things that had to go right in order for the trade to happen. Here's an interesting hindsight thought. If Boston drafts Fulmer instead of Benintendi, do you think the Sale trade happens? Personally, I don't think it happens because having Benintendi made it easier for Boston to part with Moncada. On a separate issue all together. I give you and Balta mad props for how you both have handled the rebuild. I know you guys weren't fans of the rebuild and I think it's pretty damn cool you both stayed rather chill about it all season long instead of going off the rails. I think when Balta returned over the summer he had said he purposely stayed away so he didn't drag the board down, or something along those lines. Well done gents. Yeah for sure. Mad props to those two for sure.

QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 02:51 PM) So on my count of the 40 man including only guys who we control for next year, even if they are on the DL, I have 34 guys. Putnam and Tilson are on it, Soto is not. I think Putnam gets non-tendered possibly re-signed to minor league deal.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 02:33 PM) He doesn't appear to be on the current 40 man (at least the one posted on whitesox.com). Oh yeah that's right. 60-day dl.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 02:27 PM) Right. You got Pelfry, and then you have to imagine Beck, Farquhar and Alburquerque are all easy cuts. Then you still have Jacob May and Alen Hanson who likely aren't part of the future. That bring 40 man down to 27 before adding the likes of Eloy, Gillaspie, Peter, Clark, Guerrero, Polo, Basabe, and Walsh. Plenty of space to play with. Soto as well.

QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 02:16 PM) In addition, I believe that Luis Basabe, Ian Clarkin, Connor Walsh, Al Alburquerque, & Cody Asche are rule 5 eligible. I think we're going to leave a fair number of these unprotected. These 2 for sure.

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 02:15 PM) I don't feel a need to protect Micker. Agreed. He's far so he wouldn't be worth it to keep on an MLB roster all year.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 12:27 PM) I was trying to be nice. I thought those of us who didn't want a rebuild were in the vast minority. You seem to freak out over my posts. Take a deep breath and realize I am not the enemy. I am a Sox fan, too. If I am wrong, give me your take, but you don't need to freak out and be bothered by me. I don't disagree with you folks that much. I am wait and see on the rebuild rather than excited about it; I like Avi and Abreu and Davidson a bit more than most and get defensive when they get criticized, yes; I tend to be more disturbed about our bullpen and 3 lousy starters (Shields, Pelphrey and Holland) than most. (Yes, I understand why they are here during the "we don't care about winning" part of the rebuild (waiting for younger players part of rebuild). So that's about it in terms of gross disagreements with the majority here. Relax and enjoy the upcoming winter. Oh wait. It will be horrid like all winters. You just act like you are in the minority in all of your posts. We ALL, if not most, loved the 1-2 punch of Chris Sale and Quintana. It's not like you had an original thought/idea/opinion about them. We all loved what they were and how great they pitched for us. Its' similar to your Abreu posts. You're the only one who values Abreu according to you.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 10:14 AM) I'm going to see if I can get them all. David Robertson NYY Tommy Kahnle NYY Todd Frazier NYY Jose Quintana CHC Adam Eaton WAS Alex Avila CHC Chris Sale BOS Chris Young BOS Chris Devenski HOU Austin Jackson CLE Eduardo Escobar MIN Bartolo Colon MIN Addison Reed BOS Tyler Clippard HOU Francisco Liriano HOU Brandon McCarthy LAD Trayce Thompson LAD Matt Albers WAS Gio Gonzalez WAS Alejandro De Aza WAS I'm still missing 4 Does this count if he is hurt since he is technically not in the playoffs?

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Oct 1, 2017 -> 06:30 PM) I can also see the Sox potentially shocking us by starting Eloy in AAA/moving him there by the end of April Or he could end up being one one of those prospects who spends about a week in AAA before coming to the majors or skipping AAA all together. Of course, this is after spending a good chunk of the season at AA.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 11:27 AM) Trout really "screwed" (quotes because he still made 100m) himself with that extension. Stuck on a garbage team that will never make it out of the ALDS whenever they manage to stumble into the playoffs. Wasted almost entire prime of the best player in a generation. He'll be 29 when he hits free agency so he can still be in line for another great pay day from a contender (assuming he doesn't completely fall off a cliff).