Everything posted by Bob Sacamano
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Nationals acquire Doolittle/Madson from As
QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 12:20 PM) Fantastic trade for the Nats. Surprised Oakland couldn't do better. Thats why some of us on here wouldn't be shocked to see Schwarber as the center piece in a Gray deal lol
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Nationals acquire Doolittle/Madson from As
QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 12:19 PM) I actually think the opposite. If I just managed to get those two guys for that, I'd be on the phone with Hahn right now getting Robertson for one of my 3-5 prospects. I agree. I could see Kieboom plus a couple others being on the table.
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Nationals acquire Doolittle/Madson from As
Have Madson through next year and Doolittle through 20. Good trade.
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Nationals acquire Doolittle/Madson from As
Could see why they would do that deal. Now, do they still go out and add one more?
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Reverse Standings Thread
QUOTE (ecupittfan @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 12:09 PM) And Bumgarner is back today. That will help SF get a few more wins, if he stays off his motorcycles. Thats why I kinda want Padres to take at least 2/3 this weekend. Bumgarner back should help Giants win some games next 2 months.
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Frazier to Boston Rumors getting heavy
Yeah idk if you'll end up flipping him. Rather do a deal eith full intention of cutting him. As long as brings good prospects in.
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Frazier to Boston Rumors getting heavy
QUOTE (whtsoxfan @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 11:17 AM) Red Sox Closing in on Deal for Todd Frazier http://www.12up.com/posts/5269933-report-r...ier?a_aid=36534 Nice summary of everything said yesterday.
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Frazier to Boston Rumors getting heavy
QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 10:31 AM) You know Boston is only team that has/will express interest and you want to create an opening for Moncada People keep saying this but do they mean Sanchez moves to 3B? I think Delmonico or Hayes comes up first.
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Q traded to Cubs/Jimenez, Cease ++ to Sox
QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 02:26 PM) It's pronounced "A-loy", according to Garfein Makes sense based on where he is from.
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Burdi to have Tommy John
Better to have this happen now than if he were in the MLB eating away service time
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Zack Burdi reported with torn UCL, TJS recommended
Really wish they weren't committed to going for it at the time of the draft in 2016.
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2017 Offseason White Sox News, Notes, and Tweets thread
QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 12:05 PM) Saladino and Gonzalez have been activated. Guess they don't care about an extra bullpen arm this weekend. Like it matters. Think they have a normal 7 guys with one being a long-reliever. Although with this current rotation, they could probably use 2 long-relievers haha Edit: we kinda do with Holmberg and Beck both being in the pen.
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How the Deal Went Down
QUOTE (joejoedairy @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 03:43 PM) Roberto Alomar and Omar Vizquel too You forgot Sandy who had like 3 different stints with the Sox. Edit: Kenny Lofton was also forgotten.
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Todd and Melky
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 02:45 PM) I think the BoSox wind up with Frazier. They don't want Prado's contract next year and the year after. They've been linked to him though.
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Todd and Melky
QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 01:57 PM) Contracts are straight-lined for luxury tax purposes, so their actual payroll should always be higher than luxury tax figure. Yeah this is how I remember it. One example of when a team's luxury tax figure being higher than a team's payroll is that Scherzer contract. He's receiving his payout over 14 years while for luxury tax purposes, it is over the 7 they have him.
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How do you rate the rebuild so far?
I still rate it very close to a 10. It is hard to judge it as of right now only about 7 months in. But so far they've done a great job of stockpiling some front-end talent. And with only 3 trades!
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Nationals acquire Doolittle/Madson from As
QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 12:35 PM) If Washington is willing, it would be cool to see us go all out with this trade and package our top 3 for a haul. Robertson/Kahnle/Swarzak for Soto/Kieboom/Ward/Marmolejos/Garcia/throw-in Would be awesome to see that happen. Nats get to keep their top 2 prospects and also increase their chances of winning this year or next. I'm big on Soto and Kieboom. Edit: actually, don't like those other names. Make Ward or Marmolejos the throw-in piece and add Luzardo.
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Q traded to Cubs/Jimenez, Cease ++ to Sox
QUOTE (Scoots @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 11:45 AM) So my question is, who fills in for the 25th man? fact, the white sox website only shows 23 players on the active roster. Who fills in for Quintana and Willy Garcia? Already announced. Gonzalez and Saladino.
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Todd and Melky
QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 12:53 PM) Their top prospect Rafael Devers is a 3B, and was just promoted to AAA 2 hours ago. I 100% expect him to get called up this year. Just look at Moncada last year for them.
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Q traded to Cubs/Jimenez, Cease ++ to Sox
QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 02:28 AM) Not enough for gift wrapping the Cubs another World Series. Would have liked to see another top prospect rather than 3 fillers. Quality over quantity. Disappointed with the return. Would have rather kept Q until we saw what we have with the newest additions at the big league level before accepting this kind of return. I'm much more disappointed with this one than the returns for Sale or Eaton. Was thrilled with the Eaton return and mildly disappointed we couldn't pull Devers for Sale but thought his deal was just ok. Especially if you are giving him to the Cubs you've got to get a better deal than this. A #2 prospect in an organization and who is on top 100 lists is a filler?
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Todd and Melky
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 12:32 PM) Frazier For Sandoval & Groome (+throwin or two somewhere?) and the Red Sox pick up Sandoval's 2018 and 2019 dollars entirely. Gets the Red Sox their 3b, cuts $12.5 million off their 2017 payroll, should drop them below the tax level and thus out of the multi-year penalty. Does that work? All I don't know is if there is some version of the money the White Sox pick up being spread across the length of the deal when the tax level is calculated. I'm not sure the Red Sox would do that deal. It would have to be the White Sox eating the money to get Groome + other interesting prospects.
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Todd and Melky
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 12:17 PM) How do the luxury tax implications work if the White Sox pick up some of that money? If that pushes the Red Sox beneath the tax level then that's a much bigger difference maker, but if that doesn't change the amount viewed for the tax level then the value of picking up the funds goes down. The White Sox payroll is going to be so low the next 2 years I don't think taking on most of Sandoval's money will really matter at all. Not an argument to go ahead and do it. Only if the Red Sox offered up something worth adding to make it worth our time.
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League Wide Speculation
QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 12:10 PM) A Gray/Alonso package seems to make a lot of sense for the Yankees at this point. There was an article a week or two ago saying they could go this route.
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League Wide Speculation
If they pull off a deal for him and then let him Arrieta and Lackey walk/retire, they'd Have Lester Quintana Gray Hendricks. Not bad.
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Nationals acquire Doolittle/Madson from As
K-Rod released by Nats.