December 9, 20169 yr Nationals rumored (by Nightengale) to be interested in Robertson (if they do not get Kenley Jansen (who they cannot afford) and obviously, if the Sox don't get offered more. I'm now wondering what they have left in their farm system that the Sox would want and what would be fair? Pick up Robertson's remaining Contract plus Robles to the White Sox? Unbelievably, there may be a larger market for Robertson who some of us thought would not be garnering much trade interest.
December 9, 20169 yr I know we've gotten several elite prospects and figure to get some more with Quintana, but you are going to be getting a more typical B/B- prospect for Robertson in maybe a 1 for 1 swap. He has red flags and is not dirt cheap, just more reasonable. Robles would not be considered, and honestly a player like Kieboom + wildcard 20-30 arm would be enough for me. Others have discussed Severino, who is a near ready plus defense catcher with a stick that is questionable to make him a regular in majors.
December 9, 20169 yr QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 09:30 AM) Nationals rumored (by Nightengale) to be interested in Robertson (if they do not get Kenley Jansen (who they cannot afford) and obviously, if the Sox don't get offered more. I'm now wondering what they have left in their farm system that the Sox would want and what would be fair? Pick up Robertson's remaining Contract plus Robles to the White Sox? Unbelievably, there may be a larger market for Robertson who some of us thought would not be garnering much trade interest. Robles for Robertson would be a fireable offense if I were the Nats owner The best we can hope for would be Fedde + pick up the remaining contract as of right now Robertson's value might be best at the deadline, or my plan would be to unload Robertson and his contract this offseason (which the $ owed to him does not seem as expensive as it did a few years ago) and let Jones take over as closer. Then if Jones does well we ship him out at the deadline for a nice package to a contender
December 9, 20169 yr QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 09:42 AM) I know we've gotten several elite prospects and figure to get some more with Quintana, but you are going to be getting a more typical B/B- prospect for Robertson in maybe a 1 for 1 swap. He has red flags and is not dirt cheap, just more reasonable. Robles would not be considered, and honestly a player like Kieboom + wildcard 20-30 arm would be enough for me. Others have discussed Severino, who is a near ready plus defense catcher with a stick that is questionable to make him a regular in majors. I would ask for Kieboom and Stevenson and see if they bite. If not, I'd take one of those players with C Jakson Reetz depending on what the Dodgers package is. Kieboom/Reetz or Stevenson/Reetz is about right I think. Kieboom/Stevenson would be fantastic but probably unrealistic.
December 9, 20169 yr Best scenario Jansen signs with the Marlins. Dodgers and Nationals go into a bidding war and have to raise the stakes. Edited December 9, 20169 yr by PolishPrince34
December 9, 20169 yr Man Jakson reetz. Totally forgot about him. Doesn't look like his bat carried over, how is his defense? He isn't even top 30 rankings for nats that I see.
December 9, 20169 yr QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 08:17 AM) Why do I know who Jackson Reetz is again? A lot of talk about him a few years ago in the draft threads. Particularly from JoeCoolMan
December 9, 20169 yr QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 10:17 AM) Why do I know who Jackson Reetz is again? I had to Google his name because, like you, I had no idea why I knew that name lol
December 9, 20169 yr QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 10:23 AM) A lot of talk about him a few years ago in the draft threads. Particularly from JoeCoolMan So did I. Wanted him with the pick we used on Jace Fry I believe.
December 9, 20169 yr QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 10:28 AM) I had to Google his name because, like you, I had no idea why I knew that name lol Reetz is years away from the majors and not a significant trade chip at this point. Batting .230 in A ball (admittedly with solid OBP numbers...but that will likely evaporate with a move to high A or AA where the pitchers have far better control) with average defense I doubt he makes it to the majors without big time improvement in contact
December 9, 20169 yr QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 10:39 AM) So did I. Wanted him with the pick we used on Jace Fry I believe. A few of us did. I think Dirty was the first one on that bandwagon at the time.
December 9, 20169 yr What about Robles if the Sox include Robertson plus Nate Jones, or pick up part of Robertson's remaining Contract. I guess I am trying to figure our how our Sox can get a decent position player prospect instead of Moncada plus a slough of pitching prospects. You know, desperation may be setting in for Rizzo since he whiffed on a few trades already.
December 9, 20169 yr QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 02:21 PM) What about Robles if the Sox include Robertson plus Nate Jones, or pick up part of Robertson's remaining Contract. I guess I am trying to figure our how our Sox can get a decent position player prospect instead of Moncada plus a slough of pitching prospects. You know, desperation may be setting in for Rizzo since he whiffed on a few trades already. Sounds like they wouldve only moved Robles for Sale. And if we couldn't pry him for Eaton, there's zero chance we get him for relievers
December 9, 20169 yr QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 01:21 PM) What about Robles if the Sox include Robertson plus Nate Jones, or pick up part of Robertson's remaining Contract. I guess I am trying to figure our how our Sox can get a decent position player prospect instead of Moncada plus a slough of pitching prospects. You know, desperation may be setting in for Rizzo since he whiffed on a few trades already. I think you need to hold on to Jones and let him close for a while, then try to move him for a return similar to what the Phillies got for Giles.
December 9, 20169 yr QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 01:21 PM) What about Robles if the Sox include Robertson plus Nate Jones, or pick up part of Robertson's remaining Contract. I guess I am trying to figure our how our Sox can get a decent position player prospect instead of Moncada plus a slough of pitching prospects. You know, desperation may be setting in for Rizzo since he whiffed on a few trades already. Robles is an elite prospect, you are not getting him for Jones or Robertson at this time
December 9, 20169 yr QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 01:50 PM) I think you need to hold on to Jones and let him close for a while, then try to move him for a return similar to what the Phillies got for Giles. I'm open to that but only after we see what happens after Jansen signs.
December 9, 20169 yr QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 02:07 PM) I'm open to that but only after we see what happens after Jansen signs. I'd shop Jones now and see, but his value would be very high if he can repeat his performance from 2016 as closer in 2017
December 11, 20169 yr If the Pirates need a closer, what about Will Craig who is blocked by Bell as he is likely to be a 1b/dh and Taylor Hearn LHP. Hearn would be very interesting to me as a power LH reliever ala Thornton.
December 12, 20169 yr The #Whitesox, who refused to include closer David Robertson in Adam Eaton deal with #Nats, now sitting on valuable trade chip https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/808382153545449473
December 12, 20169 yr QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 12, 2016 -> 12:46 PM) The #Whitesox, who refused to include closer David Robertson in Adam Eaton deal with #Nats, now sitting on valuable trade chip https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/808382153545449473 Rick Hahn playing the market to perfection so far.
December 12, 20169 yr Nats & Marlins are two potential destinations (presumed since both teams were in on some other closers). Who else has been looking at closers or could be an option? I do think when it comes to Robertson, you don't have to move him now, and his value could be higher at the deadline (presuming he proves he's healthy).
December 12, 20169 yr So for the Nationals, the best available closer options in the market could be Robertson and Greg Holland -- if Holland doesn't sign w/LAD. https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/808386376244854785
December 12, 20169 yr Potential targets: Washington Pedro Severino Koda Glover Juan Soto Miami I'm good thanks
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