Quintana Rumors: Round and round and round we go

[Quin]

Watch the trade happen at like 6 PM.

 

Rick Hahn is sitting down for Christmas Eve dinner.

Get's a text from Huntington

"You really need Meadows and Glasnow?"

"Yes. We'll give you Jones as well."

"Ok...fine...Meadows, Glasnow and Newman."

Hahn texts a link:

 

[bmags]

Watch the trade happen at like 6 PM.

 

Rick Hahn is sitting down for Christmas Eve dinner.

Get's a text from Huntington

"You really need Meadows and Glasnow?"

"Yes. We'll give you Jones as well."

"Ok...fine...Meadows, Glasnow and Newman."

Hahn texts a link:

 

 

Pirates the trade Marte to open up salary for Jones. (Am I joking?)

[steveno89]

Pirates the trade Marte to open up salary for Jones. (Am I joking?)

 

I'd be so pissed if I were a pirates fan to hear Quintanas contract is an issue

[southsider2k5]

Some random dude on Twitter pooping:

 

#pirates acquire Quintana/Gardner/Cash, #yankees get McCuthen/Robertson, #whitesox get Newman/Keller/Rutherford/Sheifleld/Tate/comp bal pick

 

I'd be so stoked.

 

Now that is interesting.

[hi8is]

Reading material for family eggnoging

 

http://www.thepointofpittsburgh.com/the-pi...-jose-quintana/

 

Edit: they suggest Glasnow, Bell, and Newman

Edited December 24, 2016 by hi8is

[Blackout Friday]

Reading material for family eggnoging

 

http://www.thepointofpittsburgh.com/the-pi...-jose-quintana/

 

Edit: they suggest Glasnow, Bell, and Newman

Pirates fans and bloggers seem pretty reasonable overall. I'd be very happy with that offer, despite preferring Meadows.

[hi8is]

Pirates fans and bloggers seem pretty reasonable overall. I'd be very happy with that offer, despite preferring Meadows.

Yea... same.

[Quin]

Yea... same.

 

Now let it be real already.

[hi8is]

Now let it be real already.

Yea... same. Soooooo how many pages are on that cespedes thread? It's seriously been bugging me for hours.

[BRIRO2017]

Yea... same. Soooooo how many pages are on that cespedes thread? It's seriously been bugging me for hours.

 

Bout tree fiddy

[hi8is]

Bout tree fiddy

I thought it was 402 but am not certain and it's driving me batty.

 

Edit: or 401

 

Yea, see.

Edited December 24, 2016 by hi8is

[BRIRO2017]

I thought it was 402 but am not certain and it's driving me batty.

 

Edit: or 401

 

Yea, see.

 

Didn't you post in it? Look it up

[hi8is]

Didn't you post in it? Look it up

I have no idea how to find old posts like that - only see old game posts in the archives. I'm in the running for "duh award of the day".

[SoxAce]

Bout tree fiddy

 

[hi8is]

Finally figured out how to find the damned thing. 402 pages. What the hell man - that's insane that I remembered that. Thanks for nothing Quinarvy.

[BRIRO2017]

 

LOL why isnt it 3 seconds longer

[Quin]

Finally figured out how to find the damned thing. 402 pages. What the hell man - that's insane that I remembered that. Thanks for nothing Quinarvy.

 

Give a man a fish, he eats for a day.

 

Ignore a man and he may eventually learn to fish, so it's all good.

[hi8is]

Truth, this is.

Thanks Yoda.

 

Edit: 13 plus years here and it's the first time I've ever had to use that feature. I'm f***ing bats*** crazy guys and readily admit it.

Edited December 25, 2016 by hi8is

[BRIRO2017]

Thanks Yoda.

 

Edit: 13 plus years here and it's the first time I've ever had to use that feature. I'm f***ing bats*** crazy guys and readily admit it.

 

Good job lol

[oldsox]

[quote name=Dick Allen' post='3466001' date='Dec 24, 2016 -> 04:03 PM]There is no reason the White Sox should take on money. If they had to get rid of him and the Pirates were the only option, then maybe, but not now. You wouldn't sell your house at a discount to the first person who looked at it because you want to fit it in their budget.

 

The White Sox leak about as little information as any team in baseball. Trade talk with Q would eventually become a huge distraction, if it carried on into the season. That could really effect his performance and value, so IMO, they must be of the belief something is going to happen pretty soon leaking this 3 team stuff.

weak analogy.

Edited December 25, 2016 by oldsox

[beautox]

The Point of Pittsburgh's take on getting Q, seeing how I was singing there praises early on this offseason.

 

As you can see, no one prospect is going to be equivalent to Quintana’s value. It will require a passel of them to make up the surplus value he brings. Baseball America will be coming out with their official new 2017 Top 100 in late February/early March, but using this past summer’s Midseason Top 100, the Pirates had the following prospects on the list:

 

Tyler Glasnow #6 — Pitchers #1-10 — $69.9M

Austin Meadows #10 — Hitters #1-10 — $73.5M

Josh Bell #38 — Hitters #26-50 — $38.2M

Kevin Newman #51 — Hitters #51-100 (we group them together because of minimal value spread) — $22.4M

Mitch Keller #52 — Pitchers #52-100 (same grouping, same reason) — $16.5M

So in order to do this just with BA Top 100 caliber guys, one of Glasnow or Meadows has to front the deal. Bell almost has to be in there, too, which is fine with me because I think he’s a DH-in-waiting and not suited to the NL. Then add either Newman or Keller to round it out. Let’s say the deal was Glasnow, Bell, and Newman…that’s $130.5M of prospect surplus value, a near-perfect match. That’s a package I could live with. Yes, losing Glasnow would sting, but if you think his control issues and slow times to the plate portend future struggles, then sell high on him to a team seeking as much upside as possible before the shine is worn off. Newman is a slap-hitting SS that I don’t think will have enough bat to justify being more than a middle-of-the-road starter. A slightly better Jordy Mercer, maybe?

Edited December 25, 2016 by beautox

[beautox]

To add one more thing if $ is the hold up. I would love to see Hahn take Antonio Bastardo back taking the pirates off the hook for Q's "big" contract; they'd have a 500k surplus from this deal.

 

Q to the pirates

 

Meadows/Bell/Keller + Diaz/Escobar/Hearn and a potential useful bullpen piece to be flipped at the deadline with the Pirates being able to keep Andrew McCutchen. If they're sucessful getting to the post season no worries if not at the deadline they can flip him to recoup some of their loss.

 

[Dam8610]

The Point of Pittsburgh's take on getting Q, seeing how I was singing there praises early on this offseason.

 

That package would need to include Keller. The only 3 player package I'd take from Pittsburgh for Q is Glasnow, Meadows, Bell. If they're still doing the 3 team, a package of Glasnow, Rutherford, Andujar, Keller would work, but I have no idea why the Yankees would want McCutchen, unless they plan to extend him, but if that's the case, why not just wait until he hits FA and not lose the prospects?

[Dam8610]

To add one more thing if $ is the hold up. I would love to see Hahn take Antonio Bastardo back taking the pirates off the hook for Q's "big" contract; they'd have a 500k surplus from this deal.

 

Q to the pirates

 

Meadows/Bell/Keller + Diaz/Escobar/Hearn and a potential useful bullpen piece to be flipped at the deadline with the Pirates being able to keep Andrew McCutchen. If they're sucessful getting to the post season no worries if not at the deadline they can flip him to recoup some of their loss.

 

I agree with your premise, but would look for a Glasnow, Meadows, Bell, Newman, Keller return for taking back a contract.

[Quin]

I agree with your premise, but would look for a Glasnow, Meadows, Bell, Newman, Keller return for taking back a contract.

 

For that package you need to include Jones at least. That's 5 Top 100 prospects.

 

Q is probably worth Glasnow, Bell and Newman. Jones worth Keller.

 

Together with a contract that may equal adding Meadows there, but that's a tall order.