Mentioned that in the Abreu thread. Hahn and Hostetler were hinting that since this past draft for 2018.

Edited December 12, 20178 yr by SoxAce

Mentioned that in the Abreu thread. Hahn and Hostetler were hinting that since this past draft for 2018.

 

They hinted at it for last draft, but I do think with the new allotments it will be harder to get those 2nd 3rd round high schoolers when you are only 10th. Will be easier with our budget this year.

Second round pick moves up a spot due to the Phillies signing Santana FWIW

Second round pick moves up a spot due to the Phillies signing Santana FWIW

But it moves back one from the Indians getting the comp pick, so basically its the same.

But it moves back one from the Indians getting the comp pick, so basically its the same.

No it's actually not because the Indians were always getting that pick. That was factored in. Here's the draft order.

 

1. Tigers

2. Giants

3. Phillies

4. White Sox

5. Reds

6. Mets

7. Padres

8. Braves

9. Athletics

10. Pirates

11. Orioles

12. Jays

13. Marlins

14. Mariners

15. Rangers

16. Rays

17. Angels

18. Royals

19. Twins

20. Twins

21. Brewers

22. Rockies

23. Yankees

24. Cubs

25. Diamondbacks

26. Red Sox

27. Nationals

28. Astros

29. Indians

30. Dodgers

31. Rays (Alex Cobb)

32. Royals (Eric Hosmer)

33. Royals (Lorenzo Cain)

34. Royals (Mike Moustakas)

35. Rockies (Greg Holland)

36. Indians (Carlos Santana)

Competitive Balance Round A

37. Pirates

38. Rays (Comp, failure to sign Rasmusses)

39. Orioles

40. Padres

41. Diamondbacks

42. Royals

43. Indians

44. Rockies

45. Cardinals

 

2nd Round

46. Tigers

47. Giants

48. White Sox

No it's actually not because the Indians were always getting that pick. That was factored in. Here's the draft order.

 

1. Tigers

2. Giants

3. Phillies

4. White Sox

5. Reds

6. Mets

7. Padres

8. Braves

9. Athletics

10. Pirates

11. Orioles

12. Jays

13. Marlins

14. Mariners

15. Rangers

16. Rays

17. Angels

18. Royals

19. Twins

20. Twins

21. Brewers

22. Rockies

23. Yankees

24. Cubs

25. Diamondbacks

26. Red Sox

27. Nationals

28. Astros

29. Indians

30. Dodgers

31. Rays (Alex Cobb)

32. Royals (Eric Hosmer)

33. Royals (Lorenzo Cain)

34. Royals (Mike Moustakas)

35. Rockies (Greg Holland)

36. Indians (Carlos Santana)

Competitive Balance Round A

37. Pirates

38. Rays (Comp, failure to sign Rasmusses)

39. Orioles

40. Padres

41. Diamondbacks

42. Royals

43. Indians

44. Rockies

45. Cardinals

 

2nd Round

46. Tigers

47. Giants

48. White Sox

Give me HS SS Nander De Sedas (Or Turang) and Mount Carmel native/son of Sox trainer HS OF Alek Thomas

 

HS blood that NH wants and makes sense

 

No it's actually not because the Indians were always getting that pick. That was factored in. Here's the draft order.

 

1. Tigers

2. Giants

3. Phillies

4. White Sox

5. Reds

6. Mets

7. Padres

8. Braves

9. Athletics

10. Pirates

11. Orioles

12. Jays

13. Marlins

14. Mariners

15. Rangers

16. Rays

17. Angels

18. Royals

19. Twins

20. Twins

21. Brewers

22. Rockies

23. Yankees

24. Cubs

25. Diamondbacks

26. Red Sox

27. Nationals

28. Astros

29. Indians

30. Dodgers

31. Rays (Alex Cobb)

32. Royals (Eric Hosmer)

33. Royals (Lorenzo Cain)

34. Royals (Mike Moustakas)

35. Rockies (Greg Holland)

36. Indians (Carlos Santana)

Competitive Balance Round A

37. Pirates

38. Rays (Comp, failure to sign Rasmusses)

39. Orioles

40. Padres

41. Diamondbacks

42. Royals

43. Indians

44. Rockies

45. Cardinals

 

2nd Round

46. Tigers

47. Giants

48. White Sox

The Royals have 5 picks in the first 42...that's nuts

The Royals have 5 picks in the first 42...that's nuts

White Sox had 5 of the first 59 in 2004, and 7 of the first 89, and the only one the drafted worth a damn was Gio Gonzalez.

White Sox had 5 of the first 59 in 2004, and 7 of the first 89, and the only one the drafted worth a damn was Gio Gonzalez.

 

But back then, the White Sox shied away from drafting the best talent because JR didn't want to pay for it.

But back then, the White Sox shied away from drafting the best talent because JR didn't want to pay for it.

 

Not to mention different draft philosophy and of course there's much more data and such these days. Still doesn't mean they'll make the right picks, but it never hurts to have as many lottery picks as possible.

I saw a tweet from the Athletic today that said Hostetler provided a "draft name of interest." If accurate, did anyone see this? Insight?

The Royals have 5 picks in the first 42...that's nuts

 

 

I'd bet they'd rather not have the picks and still have Hosmer, Cain and Moose.

White Sox had 5 of the first 59 in 2004, and 7 of the first 89, and the only one the drafted worth a damn was Gio Gonzalez.

 

Actually josh fields was a top100 prospects a few times topping out around 50. Ultimately he busted but he was a good prospect and a good choice at the time.

I saw a tweet from the Athletic today that said Hostetler provided a "draft name of interest." If accurate, did anyone see this? Insight?

 

Not sure what it’s referring to, did mention they have a guy in consideration at #4 that’s not even in top 20 on the major lists.

4. Chicago White Sox

 

 

If the Giants are running on borrowed time, the White Sox have all the time in the world. Trading away their existing core for a king’s ransom of prospects that will put them in an enviable position in the AL Central. Additionally, their recent draft history shows that they can build on their own.

 

Since the White Sox have a lot of major league ready talent, and only so many spots to fill for the future, it makes sense here for them to break their 4 year college streak and look at the prep class. Matt Liberatore is this year’s top lefthanded pitcher. He may not have the speed of an ace, but he makes up for it with outstanding pitching discipline and mechanics that throws off hitters. Much like Ethan Hankins, Liberatore is built to be a pitcher, but a few more pounds would help. Much like Shane McClanahan, his best secondary pitch, actually his best pitch is his changeup. He’s also a workhorse, rarely losing velocity late in the game.

 

Liberatore could be part of a second wave of top White Sox prospects, and if he can build his velocity up, could potentially become a second starter in the organization.

 

https://medium.com/minor-league-madhouse/20...on-75bb9b03f3e9

https://medium.com/minor-league-madhouse/20...on-75bb9b03f3e9

Saying he could be a #2 on our team is saying a lot. So, that means he's better than ALL of our current pitchers except Kopech?

Not sure what it’s referring to, did mention they have a guy in consideration at #4 that’s not even in top 20 on the major lists.

Hostetler said that?

 

I really hope he is not talking about Beer.

Edited December 24, 20178 yr by GenericUserName

Hostetler said that?

 

I really hope he is not talking about Beer.

 

Or Thomas

Hostetler said that?

 

I really hope he is not talking about Beer.

 

Yeah he said in to the Athletic. Here's the quote:

 

JF: Guys who are near the top of the mock drafts — Brady Singer, Nick Madrigal — at this point you have years of reports on them. How is it that their ranking and these mock drafts can change so much over the next six months when everyone already knows so much about them?

 

Hostetler: That’s a great question that we continue to ask ourselves over and over. I think while it may seem on the outside like it changes so much in that six-month frame, really inside it doesn’t change as much as it may look. We might not have a certain player up where some of the services have them, or we might have a guy who is lower than all these places have them, and we do, it’s one where I was just talking to Rick [Hahn] about him a minute ago, that is nowhere to be found in the top-20 on these services, where if right now we were picking today, would be in consideration at No. 4. I think that sometimes on the outside it looks a little bit more volatile than what it actually is.

 

It’s hard because when you’re investing five, six, seven million dollars on a certain player, you’ve got to be careful how much stock you put into the last look. Also, the first look. You’ve got to get out of your mind maybe what you’ve seen in the past if he just is continuing not to show it.

 

https://theathletic.com/187901/2017/12/18/q...-hes-ever-seen/

 

 

Yeah he said in to the Athletic. Here's the quote:

 

JF: Guys who are near the top of the mock drafts — Brady Singer, Nick Madrigal — at this point you have years of reports on them. How is it that their ranking and these mock drafts can change so much over the next six months when everyone already knows so much about them?

 

Hostetler: That's a great question that we continue to ask ourselves over and over. I think while it may seem on the outside like it changes so much in that six-month frame, really inside it doesn't change as much as it may look. We might not have a certain player up where some of the services have them, or we might have a guy who is lower than all these places have them, and we do, it's one where I was just talking to Rick [Hahn] about him a minute ago, that is nowhere to be found in the top-20 on these services, where if right now we were picking today, would be in consideration at No. 4. I think that sometimes on the outside it looks a little bit more volatile than what it actually is.

 

It's hard because when you're investing five, six, seven million dollars on a certain player, you've got to be careful how much stock you put into the last look. Also, the first look. You've got to get out of your mind maybe what you've seen in the past if he just is continuing not to show it.

 

https://theathletic.com/187901/2017/12/18/q...-hes-ever-seen/

 

Sounds a lot like Mike Trout. This will be a great follow up question to ask him about after the draft.

I was watching MLB Network yesterday and this is something that blew my mind. The SEC is a really good baseball conference, a couple of historic programs, but Frank Thomas is their only HOFer.

Edited January 9, 20188 yr by Dick Allen

I was watching MLB Network yesterday and this is something that blew my mind. The SEC is a really good baseball conference, a couple of historic programs, but Frank Thomas is their only HOFer.

How many HOFers are there from other conferences? I feel like going to college limits your ability to make the hall because you are in college for years where HOF caliber guys drafted out of HS might already be in the league.

From Longenhagen's chat today when asked who the Tigers should take 1-1

 

Eric A Longenhagen

12:06 The guy with the talent to rise up and seize 1-1 is Nander De Sedas, but any of the better college arms could take a step forward and feel so safe that they go 1-1, we just don't know who that'll be for a while

 

Also when asked about HS pitching:

Keith

1:20 Top two HS arms for draft this year? Your current opinion.

 

Eric A Longenhagen

1:20 Liberatore and Rocker

Interesting he has Rocker over Hankins.

 

And on Burger's former teammate:

Kingman's Performance

1:33 Thoughts on Jeremy Eierman?

 

Eric A Longenhagen

1:34 Really like him. All-fields power, chance to stay at SS. Think he's a potential top 10 pick.

Edited January 9, 20188 yr by GenericUserName

Yeah, starting to feel like De Sedas will go be the royce lewis of this year.

Is this supposed to be a stacked year as far as pitching goes? I'm just surprised to see Hankins ranked 3rd among HS pitchers (presumably, by Eric L), let alone all pitchers who will be eligible. The dude has DYN-O-MITE stuff.

Edited January 9, 20188 yr by ron883