justBLAZE Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Good, can they put Holland in the pen plz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Aug 13, 2017 -> 10:33 PM) Would imagine Covey comes up Boo X2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Aug 14, 2017 -> 04:31 AM) Sounds legit Amazing message board for anything and everything. Tons of Astros fans on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Aug 14, 2017 -> 04:33 AM) Would imagine Covey comes up Yep he has to if they want to keep him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 13, 2017 -> 10:36 PM) Yep he has to if they want to keep him Hopefully we just take the 25k instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 I would think ptbnl means on their 40 man. So hopefully it is Kemp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Could still be Kemp, but Sox would need to claim him on waivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Fansided reporting the ptbnl is indeed Tony Kemp. Great trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Tigerdroppings FTW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 If it's a PTBNL or cash, then it's likely going to based on Clippard's performance with the Astros. If it was just Tony Kemp, they'd just have announced it as a PTBNL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Tony Kemp is Leury Garica ...at best. Redundant mid level outfield talent. I hope the Sox received some salary relief on what they owed Clippy. Otherwise that trade does not seem to make much sense for the White Sox. In any case, no big deal here. The most interesting aspect of this is considering why Houston would even want Clippy, unless they just wanted another innings burner to bide time and give their main relievers some rest as they prepare for the play-offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 QUOTE (danman31 @ Aug 13, 2017 -> 10:54 PM) If it's a PTBNL or cash, then it's likely going to based on Clippard's performance with the Astros. If it was just Tony Kemp, they'd just have announced it as a PTBNL. I'd think you'd leave the cash option on the table as Kemp is still playing and may hurt himself, potentially changing the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 If Kemp is the return for six weeks of a guy we didn't want anyway, so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 How long before a PTBNL is named? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 If it's Tony Kemp that's an amazing get for a guy who was a salary dump a month ago and leaving in six weeks for nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Guys, I didn't believe it before, but now I am sure of it - the White Sox are in full on rebuild mode. I thought with a young group of fire throwers in the bullpen and a veteran saddled rotation, along with a rejuvenated offense, the Sox were absolutely still trying to contend. But, with the trade of Tyler Clippard, I now have absolutely no doubt that they are rebuilding. Killer blow to the bullpen. Smdh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Aug 13, 2017 -> 10:55 PM) Tony Kemp is Leury Garica ...at best. Redundant mid level outfield talent. I hope the Sox received some salary relief on what they owed Clippy. Otherwise that trade does not seem to make much sense for the White Sox. In any case, no big deal here. The most interesting aspect of this is considering why Houston would even want Clippy, unless they just wanted another innings burner to bide time and give their main relievers some rest as they prepare for the play-offs. LOL yes, let's not get average to above average players with versatility for s***ty relievers who are free agents at the end of the year who were only included in a trade to offset salaries. I am literally laughing at how ridiculous this post and premise is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 13, 2017 -> 11:37 PM) Guys, I didn't believe it before, but now I am sure of it - the White Sox are in full on rebuild mode. I thought with a young group of fire throwers in the bullpen and a veteran saddled rotation, along with a rejuvenated offense, the Sox were absolutely still trying to contend. But, with the trade of Tyler Clippard, I now have absolutely no doubt that they are rebuilding. Killer blow to the bullpen. Smdh Tyler Clippard loved Drake LaRoche. Fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 At the end of 2015, Tony Kemp was the #10 prospect in the Astros system and #9 2B Prospect in baseball. Can play INF/OF and has put up great AAA numbers. Kinda sounds like Leury, who has been a great surprise this season. To get that for six weeks of Tyler Clippard? If that's who the Sox pull back it is an amazing deal by Hahn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 13, 2017 -> 10:43 PM) Fansided reporting the ptbnl is indeed Tony Kemp. Great trade I don't see that anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 13, 2017 -> 10:37 PM) Guys, I didn't believe it before, but now I am sure of it - the White Sox are in full on rebuild mode. I thought with a young group of fire throwers in the bullpen and a veteran saddled rotation, along with a rejuvenated offense, the Sox were absolutely still trying to contend. But, with the trade of Tyler Clippard, I now have absolutely no doubt that they are rebuilding. Killer blow to the bullpen. Smdh 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 13, 2017 -> 11:41 PM) LOL yes, let's not get average to above average players with versatility for s***ty relievers who are free agents at the end of the year who were only included in a trade to offset salaries. I am literally laughing at how ridiculous this post and premise is. You lied about the premise of my post in order to create a straw man argument because you just had to troll a bit. I stated that Kemp, at best, is very similar to a player we already have - Leury Garcia, who may or may not be part of the future plans of the White Sox beyond 2018. You stated that Kemp is an average or above average player? On what basis? Kemp is 25 yrs old (about a year younger than Leury and an inch shorter at 5'6") Unlike Leury, Kemp has limited major league experience posting a .211 batting average and 1 HR in 123 AB . I was actually pretty generous in comparing him to Leury. My "post and premise" was ridiculous? OK have fun trolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Sox stockpile enough guys like Cordell, Kemp, Gillaspie, Polo etc. and eventually they are bound to strike gold on someone. Really you could throw Kevan Smith, Delmonico, Engel, Davidson, Leury into that same tier as well. Individually they may not be too impressive but players of that status break out as above-average major leaguers all the time. Sox have a lot of playing time to go around for the foreseeable future, especially in the outfield...makes sense to keep rolling the dice on these guys and seeing what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Aug 14, 2017 -> 01:13 AM) You lied about the premise of my post in order to create a straw man argument because you just had to troll a bit. I stated that Kemp, at best, is very similar to a player we already have - Leury Garcia, who may or may not be part of the future plans of the White Sox beyond 2018. You stated that Kemp is an average or above average player? On what basis? Kemp is 25 yrs old (about a year younger than Leury and an inch shorter at 5'6") Unlike Leury, Kemp has limited major league experience posting a .211 batting average and 1 HR in 123 AB . I was actually pretty generous in comparing him to Leury. My "post and premise" was ridiculous? OK have fun trolling. Just to be clear, would you rather have Tyler Clippard, or Tony Kemp, a guy who's at best a "3.5 WAR player in a full season with good defensive versatility", and also cost controlled? And what would you have said about the best case scenario for Chris Taylor before 2017? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 If it is Tony Kemp, there is no reason for it not to be announced. I think that report is BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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