mqr Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Orlando said: The only Machado related piece. Get a load of cool teacher Rick sitting on the table. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Just now, heirdog said: Rick expecting a heated presser where he’d have a lot of butt sweat?!? What’s with the towel? Maybe he thought he had to fart, but he didn't have to fart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Orlando said: The only Machado related piece. Ha, good stuff Rick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Machado2Sox said: This is getting old... Sign Machado, sign Gio, trade for Joc, and end the offseason. Joc trade seems dead. Dave said it and Hahn said some of the trade talks they were having have fizzled out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tony said: We've been saying that for weeks. It's clear no one is ready to blink. Tomorrow will be the Padres day to be the rumored team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 BOOOOO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 How long until Hector retweets Hahn's video with the caption "Be aware"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, mqr said: Get a load of cool teacher Rick sitting on the table. "Hello, fellow kids". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, heirdog said: Rick expecting a heated presser where he’d have a lot of butt sweat?!? What’s with the towel? Those tables are hard. I dont blame him for adding a little cushion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: How many players have gotten more than $10 million in year 1? I know of 1, Kris Bryant, $10.85 mil, 2 years removed of the National League MVP award. The Arb-1 record holder for pitchers is Dallas Keuchel at just over $7 million. That was coming off 2015...when he won the Cy Young Award. I promise, if Lopez has multiple Cy Young awards by 2020 such that he's blowing past the arb record for pitchers and Yoan Moncada has a $15 million win in year 1 thanks to his back to back MVP awards, I will not f***ing care one iota about those prices thanks to my new white sox gear that I bought during the 2020 world series run. They would be in Arb 2, not Arb 1. That's a big difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said: They would be in Arb 2, not Arb 1. That's a big difference. No they would not be look again. Moncada, Lopez, and Giolito came up mid-2017, after the expected Super 2 point in June. That means they will be pre-arb in 2018, 2019, and 2020. If you need confirmation please check the B-R table where they are shown as pre-arb in 2020 and Arb-1 in 2021. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Not sure why I ever get myself hyped for the today is the day bs. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Just now, shipps said: Not sure why I ever get myself hyped for the today is the day bs. 😂 It's easier if we all assume this is easily going to drag well into March for the Machado/Harper saga to be over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 minute ago, shipps said: Not sure why I ever get myself hyped for the today is the day bs. 😂 Because one day, it will be the day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: No they would not be look again. Moncada, Lopez, and Giolito came up mid-2017, after the expected Super 2 point in June. That means they will be pre-arb in 2018, 2019, and 2020. If you need confirmation please check the B-R table where they are shown as pre-arb in 2020 and Arb-1 in 2021. You are correct; I was looking end of 2021, not prior. That is my bad. So still, that's your issue in 2022 instead of 2021 - the point still stands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, shipps said: Not sure why I ever get myself hyped for the today is the day bs. 😂 The giveaway is when none of the main guys have anything. Someone obscure may get something first, but one of the main guys will get it within a few hours. When it's nothing but crickets from them, you know the wannabes are all full of crap. Edited February 13, 2019 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Rick Hahn so reads Soxtalk after hearing that hahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: You are correct; I was looking end of 2021, not prior. That is my bad. So still, that's your issue in 2022 instead of 2021 - the point still stands. And if these guys are that good that in 2022 they are getting $12-$15 million in arbitration, the White Sox will have a couple of consecutive playoff runs. Hopefully a ring and a banner. If they're not darn near filling that ballpark, raising ticket prices, and seeing surges in TV and in-stadium ad revenue, of the sort where a $175 million payroll is possible (note that this is 4 years from now with revenues growing at 5% a year or more, and a new CBA) - well then they might as well move the team because if they can't fill the stadium winning that amount of ballgames then there's no reason to be in Chicago any more, RH would have destroyed the fanbase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Soxnfins said: Rick Hahn so reads Soxtalk after hearing that hahahaha Every once in a while, I glance down at the recently browsing members section in a thread and I see “Druthers”...long time lurker, zero time poster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: The giveaway is when none of the main guys have anything. Someone obscure may get something first, but one of the main guys will get it within a few hours. When it's nothing but crickets from them, you know the wannabes are all full of crap. The National Media guys have had virtually nothing to report on Machado/Harper, which is pretty telling. If anything were close to finalizing I'm sure we'd hear about it. Edited February 13, 2019 by steveno89 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Just now, Balta1701 said: And if these guys are that good that in 2022 they are getting $12-$15 million in arbitration, the White Sox will have a couple of consecutive playoff runs. If they're not darn near filling that ballpark, raising ticket prices, and seeing surges in TV and in-stadium ad revenue, of the sort where a $175 million payroll is possible (note that this is 4 years from now with revenues growing at 5% a year or more, and a new CBA) - well then they might as well move the team because if they can't fill the stadium winning that amount of ballgames then there's no reason to be in Chicago any more, RH would have destroyed the fanbase. I just don't think this is necessarily true. Kevin Gausmann just got 9.35 million in arbitration and he is far from a star. He's a league average pitcher, maybe. Wheeler, who has barely pitched, got 6 million (hence my 7 million for Lucas if he's still around). Rendon just got 18 million - Moncada could easily be as good as Rendon and he could also be a little less good which puts him around 14 million. Scooter Gennet just got 10 million. Kneble got 5.2 million - which is where any of the young relievers could be by then. Xander got 12 million. Those guys aren't "super stars." They are good/average MLB players. Arbitration is becoming more and more expensive, and the number quoted are easily attainable without a star-level of success. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: I just don't think this is necessarily true. Kevin Gausmann just got 9.35 million in arbitration and he is far from a star. He's a league average pitcher, maybe. Wheeler, who has barely pitched, got 6 million (hence my 7 million for Lucas if he's still around). Rendon just got 18 million - Moncada could easily be as good as Rendon and he could also be a little less good which puts him around 14 million. Scooter Gennet just got 10 million. Kneble got 5.2 million - which is where any of the young relievers could be by then. Xander got 12 million. Those guys aren't "super stars." They are good/average MLB players. Arbitration is becoming more and more expensive, and the number quoted are easily attainable without a star-level of success. Rendon has been a really good player the last three seasons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Rendon is basically a superstar in an arbitrators eyes, but we will have an additional 4 years of arbitration growth (and arbitrators have been increasingly pro-player). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Hombre Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, steveno89 said: The National Media guys have had virtually nothing to report on Machado/Harper, which is pretty telling. If anything were close to finalizing I'm sure we'd hear about it. Heyman liked the tweet which referenced Sox as the betting favorites to land machado, and commented on Garfien’s empty locker tweet. So that’s something lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: I just don't think this is necessarily true. Kevin Gausmann just got 9.35 million in arbitration and he is far from a star. He's a league average pitcher, maybe. Wheeler, who has barely pitched, got 6 million (hence my 7 million for Lucas if he's still around). Rendon just got 18 million - Moncada could easily be as good as Rendon and he could also be a little less good which puts him around 14 million. Scooter Gennet just got 10 million. Kneble got 5.2 million - which is where any of the young relievers could be by then. Xander got 12 million. Those guys aren't "super stars." They are good/average MLB players. Arbitration is becoming more and more expensive, and the number quoted are easily attainable without a star-level of success. Kevin Gausmann got $9.35 million in arbitration year 3, not arbitration year 2. Anthony Rendon got $18 million in arbitration year 3, not arbitration year 2, and he's been in the top 11 of MVP voting the past 2 seasons. Zach Wheeler is in arbitration year 3 and is a free agent at the end of this year. I'm not even going to look the other ones up because I checked 3 and all 3 of them had the same problem. You're comparing guys in different arbitration years to make this look worse. Arbitration year 3 for Moncada, Giolito, and Lopez is 2023. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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