5 minutes ago, reiks12 said:

What am I missing? His first 5 years look pretty good to me

21 career WAR

4 minutes ago, reiks12 said:

What am I missing? His first 5 years look pretty good to me

He had one really good seasons and a couple above average ones.  Otherwise he was a 1.5 to 2 win player, which is a slightly below average starter.  He wasn’t a bad player by any means, just not sure I’d call him “very good”.

Yeah Eck is a decent outcome for Madrigal. He has a very high floor but a low-ish ceiling. Still a guy you want to have around.

High end outcome for Madrigal - Placido Polanco

Middling outcome - Eckstein

Low end outcome - lmao lets not think about that

I have always said that the low mlb outcome for Madrigal is Darwin Barney

2 minutes ago, daggins said:

High end outcome for Madrigal - Placido Polanco

Middling outcome - Eckstein

Low end outcome - lmao lets not think about that

I honestly think Eckstein is Madrigal’s floor in all honestly.

Madrigal is going to be the guy that future little men want to emulate. I have a great feeling about that kid. He’s not going to be Pedroia or Altuve or Figgins but he might be a mixture of those and a touch of his own uniqueness. He will be great. 

Feel like everyone said the exact same things about Alexei Ramirez.

Some kids are just born to play baseball, no matter how they look, like Gwynn or Kruk or Altuve/Biggio.

Whatever the Sox do, I really hope they don’t trade Madrigal. Want to see him with a full two seasons at the big league level, think he’s going to be really solid.

2 minutes ago, shipps said:

Madrigal is going to be the guy that future little men want to emulate. I have a great feeling about that kid. He’s not going to be Pedroia or Altuve or Figgins but he might be a mixture of those and a touch of his own uniqueness. He will be great. 

I share your enthusiasm.

I think he will be a solid 2.5 WAR player. He would be a fine leadoff guy if he's a .300 hitter with about .375 OBP.

So, I've been reading some more, looking at some statistics, I'm starting to come around to Keuchel and it seems Edwin doesn't have many suitors other than us which could be really good for a nice, small, 1 or 2 year deal... can't complain about that.

Is there any chance we sign Edwin AND sign Puig? 

I just really like a Puig signing as I don't think he'll get more than one or two years, he has extreme potential, and can be a competent outfielder. 

Neither Eckstein, nor Pedroia had the elite contact skill that Madrigal projects to have. They struck out more than we should expect Nick to do. Pedroia did hit the ball harder, but we don't know how much stronger Nick might become, with a little time. I hope that he's hitting the weights hard. 

Edited December 23, 20196 yr by Lillian

4 hours ago, Orlando said:

Funny that he had nothing on any move this winter outside of a random DM about Kuechel

That random DM put him above all the other supposed Sox insiders. Really, Steve Stone is the only insider who's words mean a damn at this point.

8 minutes ago, Lillian said:

Neither Eckstein, nor Pedroia had the elite contact skill that Madrigal projects to have. They struck out more than we should expect Nick to do. Pedroia did hit the ball harder, but we don't know how much stronger Nick might become, with a little time. I hope that he's hitting the weights hard. 

Or hits the PED's hard like Altuve

39 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Feel like everyone said the exact same things about Alexei Ramirez.

Some kids are just born to play baseball, no matter how they look, like Gwynn or Kruk or Altuve/Biggio.

Alexei Ramirez is 6'3"

23 minutes ago, soxfan49 said:

Or hits the PED's hard like Altuve

Or has someone banging a trashcan behind the dugout to let him know what pitch is coming

24 minutes ago, Quin said:

Alexei Ramirez is 6'3"

He also weighs about 130 pounds

I think he was simply saying there's been a ton of baseball success despite "perfect" body type

6 minutes ago, pmb0928 said:

Or has someone banging a trashcan behind the dugout to let him know what pitch is coming

LMAO

25 minutes ago, Quin said:

Alexei Ramirez is 6'3"

Sure, but skinny as a rail, no defined position and projected only as a utility player.   

So what kind of contract do we think Edwin will get?

I think Madrigal is going to be the guy you want up in the 9th no matter the situation.  Like he’ll just always get it done and be THE fan favorite because of that. 

Edited December 23, 20196 yr by Jerksticks

11 minutes ago, smellysox said:

So what kind of contract do we think Edwin will get?

1/10 maybe?

Hmm?

I see Cole is trying to make amends.