1 minute ago, Vulture said:

If you’re going that route at closer might as well just resign Colomé and go with the safer bet. Or sign someone like Petit to setup and go with Bummer

Colome isn’t a value play. You’ll end up paying a high price for a second tier closer?

I’d rather do that than go with a closer coming off elbow surgery.

Edited December 13, 20205 yr by Vulture

Brad Hand has equivalent surface stats, a strong track record, and much better peripherals than Colome. It doesn't have to be Hendriks or Colome if the Sox are set on having an established closer.

I remember watching brad hand pitch against the Sox and being completely underwhelmed by his stuff, mainly his fastball. His delivery looked pretty deceptive, though. His numbers are consistently solid.

11 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

Brad Hand has equivalent surface stats, a strong track record, and much better peripherals than Colome. It doesn't have to be Hendriks or Colome if the Sox are set on having an established closer.

The question was if the Sox were going the budget route. Obviously there are better options

21 minutes ago, Vulture said:

The question was if the Sox were going the budget route. Obviously there are better options

Every team in baseball had the chance to acquire Hand for 1 year 10 million and passed on it. His next contract isn't going to break the bank.

5 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

Every team in baseball had the chance to acquire Hand for 1 year 10 million and passed on it. His next contract isn't going to break the bank.

Sure but I was saying signing Colomé would be preferable to Yates given his elbow issues, or looking for other options with injury issues that suppress their value, not that he was the best option available.

Edited December 13, 20205 yr by Vulture

42 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

Brad Hand has equivalent surface stats, a strong track record, and much better peripherals than Colome. It doesn't have to be Hendriks or Colome if the Sox are set on having an established closer.

Brad hand is awful 

Hand could also just replace bummers role and bummer could be closer if it meant you get the other SP you want.

 

2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Brad hand is awful 

Colome is awful too. 6 of one, 1/2 dozen of the other. 

10 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

Colome is awful too. 6 of one, 1/2 dozen of the other. 

Colome is awful?

6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Colome is awful?

His peripherals blow. Can't count on a low babip again. All it takes is those ground balls to start finding holes 

12 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Colome is awful?

 

23 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

Colome is awful too. 6 of one, 1/2 dozen of the other. 

 

25 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Brad hand is awful 

 

3 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

His peripherals blow. Can't count on a low babip again. All it takes is those ground balls to start finding holes 

At some point “luck” becomes a skill. When you have 100+ innings of results you should probably doubt the stats.
Are you also predicting the demise of TA?

6 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

His peripherals blow. Can't count on a low babip again. All it takes is those ground balls to start finding holes 

Sure, if you ignore his career.

11 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

His peripherals blow. Can't count on a low babip again. All it takes is those ground balls to start finding holes 

Jack, I love you man, but this is an awful take. Just terrible. 

6 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said:

I'm assuming they are already at $17M at $9M for Lynn and $8M with Eaton including the buyout. Perhaps $20M if you include a bump in manager salary for LaRussa, plus Arizona legal costs / bribes.

$30M dropped of the books this year with Parrot, Herrera, Gonzalez and Mazara gone, so treading water vs. last year's $120M level (only $50M actually paid - Jerry still made money last season - open the books you lying POS), or $30M more? I guess time will tell.

Forgot Colome,McCann and Rodon.

Maybe we should just get Oliver Perez instead.

1 hour ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Brad hand is awful 

He's literally been one of the best relievers in baseball in *each* of the last 5 seasons.

1 hour ago, maxjusttyped said:

He's literally been one of the best relievers in baseball in *each* of the last 5 seasons.

Yeah, I know his production has been good. Id never bet on him though.

1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Yeah, I know his production has been good. Id never bet on him though.

This is what I think when I watch him. Completely mediocre fastball. Breaking stuff seems decent. Delivery looks deceptive, but I still can't believe the numbers he has put up with the stuff he has. 

20 minutes ago, Yearnin' for Yermin said:

This is what I think when I watch him. Completely mediocre fastball. Breaking stuff seems decent. Delivery looks deceptive, but I still can't believe the numbers he has put up with the stuff he has. 

He’s striking out 13/9 over the last five years.  What exactly is happening?  

1 minute ago, Sambuca said:

He’s striking out 13/9 over the last five years.  What exactly is happening?  

Deception and good command? The stuff doesn't look overpowering, but it works. 

5 hours ago, Yearnin' for Yermin said:

I remember watching brad hand pitch against the Sox and being completely underwhelmed by his stuff, mainly his fastball. His delivery looked pretty deceptive, though. His numbers are consistently solid.

Every time i watch him i think he sucks

I’m getting less optimistic with every passing day that the Sox will sign Hendriks. Watch some team swoop in and get him while the Sox are still haggling over a couple million dollars.