Just now, fathom said:

why is he still in the game?  He’s been a complete disaster the last few weeks.

Cause they have a massive lead and he is a key to the long term. Let him learn - they can and should be invested in it. 

No one is tipping pitches, Gordon. These are sliders right down the plate

Lololol what a fucking embarrassing bullpen

Guess we are finding out why Kopech was pulled the other night.  How can everyone of our relievers be bad now.

lol ??????

Just now, Chisoxfn said:

Cause they have a massive lead and he is a key to the long term. Let him learn - they can and should be invested in it. 

How's that massive lead now?

Beckham insinuating Kopech is tipping his pitches.

I still am confident in hendricks and Kimbrel (though I may be in minority on Kimbrel). But the next arms out of pen should be tepera and crochet instead of kopech and bummer. That said Kopech upside is still big, lets not forget hes basically still a rookie 

Just now, soxfan49 said:

How's that massive lead now?

9 games is still pretty good. 

1 minute ago, Chisoxfn said:

Cause they have a massive lead and he is a key to the long term. Let him learn - they can and should be invested in it. 

You simply can’t blow this game?  We all love Kopech but he’s been as bad as anyone lately.

Semien must love hitting in front of vlad

Nice inning, Billy Koch.

Ball was smoked. Kopech took on the Huere rolé apparently 

Was that Blue Jay’s dude speaking to the umpire in requesting his flower delivery address of preference?

Cesar's defense is a godsend.

But also, WTF did John Schneider do?

Edit: I could clearly see him say "get the fuck out of here" after getting tossed ... but what did he do before that?

1 minute ago, SoxAce said:

Beckham insinuating Kopech is tipping his pitches.

It’s not tipping when he’s hanging sliders directly Over the plate

Kopech's slider is what's causing him to have all these struggles. His fastball was amazing today and they refused to throw it to get guys out. He gave up 3 hits on the slider. 

Blue jays and their fans are honestly terrible judges of the strike zone

2 minutes ago, daa84 said:

Semien must love hitting in front of vlad

Yup. And that should be Moncada or Robert ahead of Abreu. But our manager still believes that a #2 hitter is a guy who is suppose to be a good bunter, move guys over type which is what Hernandez does (only recently has he had Robert at #2 and that's against lefties)

Edited August 26, 20214 yr by SoxAce

Sure hope they haven't packed up the bats because I don't know how they are getting 9 more outs without giving up several runs.

This bullpen somehow made a 7 run lead into a tight game. Now they gotta try to not blow another game in the 8th. 

The slider to Semien was a hanger. Some of the other ones weren't. They were either sitting on it to the exclusion of all other pitches (which come on Zavala pick up on that), or he was tipping. I'd think Beckham knows the signs of a pitcher tipping as well.

2 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said:

Cause they have a massive lead and he is a key to the long term. Let him learn - they can and should be invested in it. 

As much as it sucked to watch that inning, I think I agree with this. Gotta let him work through his issues. This isn't someone like Ruiz or Bummer you can just hide for a while when he's going bad. Sox need him to get to the other side of this.

Last nine Kopech appearances: 9 1/3 Innings; 13 Runs; 11 Earned Runs.

Thank God Cesar put an end to it.