March 9, 20224 yr 4 minutes ago, oldsox said: Where did you read that? It's from Scott Boras' autobiography "Everyone has a price."
March 9, 20224 yr MAN, don't do this to me baseball... GET IT DONE! it's 2PM EST right now, I know that deadline is coming up. LETSSS GOOOO
March 9, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: How quickly will activity begin once a CBA is agreed to? Could we have transactions as soon as tonight or is that optimistic? Sounds like once deal is formally agreed to transaction freeze is over. But who knows how long it takes to get from agreed in principal to formally agreed. I’d guess like 24 hours.
March 9, 20224 yr 4 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Sounds like once deal is formally agreed to transaction freeze is over. But who knows how long it takes to get from agreed in principal to formally agreed. I’d guess like 24 hours. Thought I read where it can take 2-3 days to ratify
March 9, 20224 yr Author 14 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Thinking more about this, is this where the urgency from the owners is coming from, or is it something more deleterious? Last real chance to get 162 in and get their expanded postseason? The players outlasted them, seemingly.
March 9, 20224 yr 2 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Probably should have gone with “latest” instead of last. ?
March 9, 20224 yr Were games canceled because of yesterday’s deadline? Edited March 9, 20224 yr by Leonard Zelig
March 9, 20224 yr 5 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Why am I fearing another statement from MLB along the lines of "MLBPA's tone changed drastically from last night. We were thinking a deal could be completed today. It's unfortunate that we'll have to cancel another week of games."
March 9, 20224 yr 9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: The players outlasted them, seemingly. Did I miss a deal?
March 9, 20224 yr Just now, Leonard Zelig said: Were games canceled because of yesterday’s deadline? No. They’ll play 162 if they settle today. Season will end 10/5, and they’ll make 3-4 games with doubleheaders.
March 9, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, Leonard Zelig said: Were games canceled because of yesterday’s deadline? Yesterday's fake deadline was delayed to today's fake deadline.
March 9, 20224 yr 15 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Thinking more about this, is this where the urgency from the owners is coming from, or is it something more deleterious? Last real chance to get 162 in and get their expanded postseason? I don't know. For 97 or however many days this damn thing has been dragging on the owners had zero interest in negotiating anything but now all of a sudden they're willing to negotiate everything. Sure we'll raise the cbt limits! Sure we'll raise the min salary! Sure we'll raise the pre-arb pool! You want us to remove draft pick compensation...sure we'll do that too! You get a car! You get a car! You get a car! I'm not buying it.
March 9, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, raBBit said: Yesterday's fake deadline was delayed to today's fake deadline. If it’s fake today, the real one can’t be too far behind. Like Friday.
March 9, 20224 yr Just now, Harold's Leg Lift said: I don't know. For 97 or however many days this damn thing has been dragging on the owners had zero interest in negotiating anything but now all of a sudden they're willing to negotiate everything. Sure we'll raise the cbt limits! Sure we'll raise the min salary! Sure we'll raise the pre-arb pool! You want us to remove draft pick compensation...sure we'll do that too! You get a car! You get a car! You get a car! I'm not buying it. I think they were hoping the players would blink first, and they didn't. I still don't get the months that went by without formal negotiations.
March 9, 20224 yr Career earnings are determined a lot by which MLB team drafts a player. How they develop at the player's position, who else is in the organization, service time manipulations, etc. If you want players to maximize their earnings, aka salary, and lower team profits, the players need to be free agents as quickly as possible. Best of all is to eliminate the draft and make everyone a free agent immediately.
March 9, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, ptatc said: That turns into teams with the most money wins. The Dodgers would be the the Yankees of the 20's and 30s winning all the time because they bought the other teams players. As long as you don't mind the NY, LA teams winning everything every year, you can have it. Talk about pure capitalism at its best or worst depending on your view. Then why is everyone so concerned about service time manipulation and getting players to free agency quicker? Or raising the minimum wage? It's almost as if they support the team owners and keeping players under team control longer.
March 9, 20224 yr 15 minutes ago, hogan873 said: I think they were hoping the players would blink first, and they didn't. I still don't get the months that went by without formal negotiations. They should have come together when it was obvious the players were not going to blink.
March 9, 20224 yr 20 minutes ago, hogan873 said: I think they were hoping the players would blink first, and they didn't. I still don't get the months that went by without formal negotiations. Well neither side was going to blink until the calendar forced some decisions, so while I get the PA was trying to negotiate, they were also asking for an awful lot, so not surprised the owners didn't just hand it over. Its all kind of classic negotiating. No one is going to make their best offer until they have to.
March 9, 20224 yr 9 minutes ago, Texsox said: Then why is everyone so concerned about service time manipulation and getting players to free agency quicker? Or raising the minimum wage? It's almost as if they support the team owners and keeping players under team control longer. Everyone meaning the players. The owners definitely want to limit this as much as possible. It looks like the owners are giving in somewhat with raising the minimum salary. But I haven't read anything about service time changing or getting the players to FA faster in any of the proposed deals. Raising the minimum wage is much cheaper for the owners than getting the players to FA faster.
March 9, 20224 yr Just now, ptatc said: Everyone meaning the players. The owners definitely want to limit this as much as possible. It looks like the owners are giving in somewhat with raising the minimum salary. But I haven't read anything about service time changing or getting the players to FA faster in any of the proposed deals. Raising the minimum wage is much cheaper for the owners than getting the players to FA faster. I mean over the last 10 days the owners have more than met the players in the middle on the core economic issues.
March 9, 20224 yr Author 30 minutes ago, hogan873 said: Why am I fearing another statement from MLB along the lines of "MLBPA's tone changed drastically from last night. We were thinking a deal could be completed today. It's unfortunate that we'll have to cancel another week of games." It is always possible. Though the amount of movement by the owners is a pretty new thing and probably tipped their hand.
March 9, 20224 yr 39 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: The players outlasted them, seemingly. If it became crystal clear that owners wouldn't get expanded playoff money this season (likely with TV deals already in place) if they stonewalled any longer, I would tend to agree.
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