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Offseason Part 3 - Because Part 2 Was a Dud

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1 minute ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Meyers has 2/40 left on his deal (far worse than Kimbrel's)... Can we also be getting a prospect/player back as well? if he is it? hmmm

2 years. Just in time for the young ones to be ready

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1 minute ago, Perfect Vision said:

It's going to be a fun time around here when the Sox trade Kimbrel for Myers straight up, and then the Padres turn around and sign Conforto.

Now that actually does start to make sense…since they were willing to throw a lot at Suzuki and aren’t 100% on their closing options.

SF also seems much likelier than Haniger or Bellinger.

Both Myers and Upton bat right handed. I bet it’s Bellinger, Lux or Yastrzemski. The Dodgers may think Jansen is gone.

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2 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Meyers has 2/40 left on his deal (far worse than Kimbrel's)... Can we also be getting a prospect/player back as well? if he is it? hmmm

Nah, 2023 is a club option, or 1m buyout, which would obviously be the move. I mean....it isn't the WORST trade we could do, but I hope it is someone else.

Just now, maloney.adam said:

Both Myers and Upton are righties. I bet it’s Bellinger, Lux or Mike Yastrzemski.

Who will the Dodgers replace Trea Turner with next year?

Just now, caulfield12 said:

Who will the Dodgers replace Trea Turner with next year?

Trea Turner

3 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Bellinger is not a bad contract when nobody would be that shocked by another MVP year.

 

Bellinger made $16M last year in arbitration, is due to make $17M this year, and has 1 year of arbitration left.

That's a fair amount of money for what he's done the last 2 years, but obviously you'd be hoping for a bounce back.  

I don't know if that counts as a bad contract but it's about what Kimbrel is making.  

SoxTalk simply cannot handle Myers for Kimbrel and Conforto signing with SD…

Unless they were going to send a Top Ten prospect or two back the other way, which everyone would immediately forecast failure for (thinking Campusano.)

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4 minutes ago, chw42 said:

I want Hassel if the Padres dump that contract on us 

That would be insanely great.  I know he was the prospect they wanted to mash up with a bad contract.

Bellinger fixed himself in the playoffs. I doubt he ever returns to MVP form, but he is obviously still very talented and worth way more than Kimbrel.

5 minutes ago, Springfield Soxfan said:

What are the defensive back up catcher options?

Zack Collins, Seby Zavala, Carlos Perez, Xavier Fernandez, Yermin Mercedes.

Bellinger was HORRIBLE last year. One of the worst players in baseball. It makes some sense that LA would look to swap his $16m for Kimbrel's. Their outfield is then likely Taylor/Betts/Pollock. From the Sox perspective, if Bellinger sucks again, he's arb eligible after this year so you just don't offer. If he's good, they can keep him until 2024.

This makes too much sense to me, so it cannot possibly be true.

1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:

SoxTalk simply cannot handle Myers for Kimbrel and Conforto signing with SD…

Unless they were going to send a Top Ten prospect or two back the other way, which everyone would immediately forecast failure for (thinking Campusano.)

Why would the Sox trade Kimbrel for Myers lol

2 minutes ago, bighurt574 said:

 

Bellinger made $16M last year in arbitration, is due to make $17M this year, and has 1 year of arbitration left.

That's a fair amount of money for what he's done the last 2 years, but obviously you'd be hoping for a bounce back.  

I don't know if that counts as a bad contract but it's about what Kimbrel is making.  

Bellingers 17m and upside >>>> Myers 22m.

 

12 minutes ago, Capn12 said:

Yep, I bet it is Wil Myers...oh lord....not the ideal replacement.

 

Oh, Upton is even worse....<insert puke emoji>

If it’s for Will Myers then I’m betting Chris Paddack is coming with him.  Not sure how I’d feel about that since Myers really doesn’t add to this roster at all.

1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Zack Collins, Seby Zavala, Carlos Perez, Xavier Fernandez, Yermin Mercedes.

Perez honestly is probably a solid option. He just may not be MLB ready yet.

Bellinger for Kimbrel? That seems a bit fantastical. 

Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Why would the Sox trade Kimbrel for Myers lol

Why would the Sox pick up Kimbrel's option without a good plan to trade him? 

5 minutes ago, Capn12 said:

Nah, 2023 is a club option, or 1m buyout, which would obviously be the move. I mean....it isn't the WORST trade we could do, but I hope it is someone else.

It's among the worst, but right in line with what they did at 2B. Forget the $1 million Kimbrel buyout, have him at $16 million, and trade him for a $21 million player projected to play to an under 1.0 fWAR.

Just now, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

That would be insanely great.  I know he was the prospect they wanted to mash up with a bad contract.

Since when our prospects in the Top 50 worth less than $10-15 million?

Even if they (White Sox) ate all of Myers’ and Kimbrels’ deals, that’s not worth Hassell.  We know that’s never going to happen.

What next, CJ Abrams, too?   That would solve second and require trading half our farm system.

Hopefully they won’t get Wil Myers…mostly because his name will be constantly misspelled.

Just now, chw42 said:

Why would the Sox pick up Kimbrel's option without a good plan to trade him? 

Why would the Sox say RF and SP are our biggest priorities and then proceed to get financially tapped out before addressing either need?

10 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Who will the Dodgers replace Trea Turner with next year?

I think if the Dodgers want, they could probably retain him.

None of these make any sense.

11 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Meyers has 2/40 left on his deal (far worse than Kimbrel's)... Can we also be getting a prospect/player back as well? if he is it? hmmm

See my last post…would almost certainly be getting prospects or a young starting pitcher like Paddack.  Only ways it makes any sense.

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