Had the boys been more angry today they would've won

1 hour ago, Chick Mercedes said:

Are you speaking it into existence?

worth a shot at this point

The only way Tony gets fired is if he says he supports the mlbpa or an equivalent nightmare for JR. Some boundaries you cannot cross.

1 minute ago, bmags said:

The only way Tony gets fired is if he says he supports the mlbpa or an equivalent nightmare for JR. Some boundaries you cannot cross.

I sure could go for a queso fundido right about now

1 hour ago, Texsox said:

He's had them motivated. 

Is "they" the LADodgers? 

57 minutes ago, bmags said:

The only way Tony gets fired is if he says he supports the mlbpa or an equivalent nightmare for JR. Some boundaries you cannot cross.

Russia over Ukraine?  With the historical treatment of ethnic/religious minority groups to consider...maybe someone should just feed him that randomly in a postgame to see if he will bite. 

Abortion rights?  Automatic weapons legislation?

Fidel Castro already wiped out Ozzie and Bernie Sanders...probably won't fall for that, might give some Jose Canseco anecdotes though.

3 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Russia over Ukraine?  With the historical treatment of ethnic/religious minority groups to consider...maybe someone should just feed him that randomly in a postgame to see if he will bite. 

Abortion rights?  Automatic weapons legislation?

Fidel Castro already wiped out Ozzie and Bernie Sanders...probably won't fall for that, might give some Jose Canseco anecdotes though.

I think we're over 90% united here against Tony LaRussa managing the White Sox.  Don't spoil it by bringing politics into this.

Just now, South Side Fireworks Man said:

I think we're over 90% united here against Tony LaRussa managing the White Sox.  Don't spoil it by bringing politics into this.

That low?

I said it before and I'll say it again, bring Hawk out of retirement so he can fire TLR again. 

Serious question - does anyone here actually think that was a good move or buy his explanation?

Sox gotta be the laughing stock of baseball....

I will be pleasantly shocked if JR takes any decisive action regarding this team. I don't think he cares about this team anymore.

2 hours ago, SpringfieldFan said:

I don’t think I’ve ever seen 8 laughing smileys on a thread post.

 

2 hours ago, Tony said:

Honestly, respect the effort and hustle @ron883

Unlike TLR, this Tony gets it.

20 minutes ago, JoshPR said:

Sox gotta be the laughing stock of baseball....

Yup.

47 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

That low?

I was being conservative.  I originally was going to write "near unanimous" but I didn't want to get any angry posts telling me "speak for yourself!"  LOL

35 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

Serious question - does anyone here actually think that was a good move or buy his explanation?

I buy his explanation that Turner is a tough out, and with a base open, walking him makes sense. I could easily see Muncy hitting a ground ball out. IF the data he was using (doubtful he had actual data)  truly showed Turner was a tougher out than Muncy in that situation (proven wrong) again I'd buy his explanation. 

Now shall we review the 100 reasons why it was a monumentally dumb strategy? Just to get started . . .

There clearly was a better way. With a 1-2 count you could pitch around him and if he chases a bad pitch you win, if he doesn't he walks.

it's early June why over manage? 

 

 

 

 

with 2 strikes almost ever hitter is leury garcia levels of dangerous.  the league usually hits like 200/250/300 with two strikes. it was an indefensible decision, a million times worse than not "defending" Mercedes or any bullshit like that.

 

 

9 minutes ago, Texsox said:

I buy his explanation that Turner is a tough out, and with a base open, walking him makes sense. I could easily see Muncy hitting a ground ball out. IF the data he was using (doubtful he had actual data)  truly showed Turner was a tougher out than Muncy in that situation (proven wrong) again I'd buy his explanation. 

Now shall we review the 100 reasons why it was a monumentally dumb strategy? Just to get started . . .

There clearly was a better way. With a 1-2 count you could pitch around him and if he chases a bad pitch you win, if he doesn't he walks.

it's early June why over manage? 

 

 

 

 

Oh I would have actually given him credit if any version of the stats supported him. I’m somewhat entertaining myself for checking If there’s any version of this that works.

If I go to After a 1-2 count, Turner has 935 career PAs, a .226 average and a .618 OPS.

Hes just bravely bullshitting/gaslighting.

7 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

Oh I would have actually given him credit if any version of the stats supported him. I’m somewhat entertaining myself for checking If there’s any version of this that works.

If I go to After a 1-2 count, Turner has 935 career PAs, a .226 average and a .618 OPS.

Hes just bravely bullshitting/gaslighting.

Playing a theoretical game here. If a manager knew when those .226 hits were going to happen, and walked him instead, they would out manage the person who couldn't. Call it "gut", "baseball instinct" etc. 

Or another way - the baseline is .226 and if a manager based all decisions on that, they would produce average results. A manager that could see the future and make decisions based on that would be above average. 

Perhaps at some point in his career he had that crystal ball. But it's clearly not there now and he's desperate to find that old magic. 

16 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

Oh I would have actually given him credit if any version of the stats supported him. I’m somewhat entertaining myself for checking If there’s any version of this that works.

If I go to After a 1-2 count, Turner has 935 career PAs, a .226 average and a .618 OPS.

Hes just bravely bullshitting/gaslighting.

Would you want to drill down to see his average after 1-2 with runners in scoring position (clutch factor)? Perhaps limit to just his last 50 ab (? or?)? 

Our fault for hiring a zombie corpse to run the team.  

The other thing is if he is so afraid of Turner, he can tell his pitcher to throw 3 pitches out of the zone and see if he chase one. You only need 1 strike and he’s in protect mode. I understand not doing that with an 0-0 count, but you almost have him put away. But anyone questioning the great LaRussa is an idiot, yet the  real idiot cost the team 3 runs.

Edited June 10, 20223 yr by Dick Allen

1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

Russia over Ukraine?  With the historical treatment of ethnic/religious minority groups to consider...maybe someone should just feed him that randomly in a postgame to see if he will bite. 

Abortion rights?  Automatic weapons legislation?

Fidel Castro already wiped out Ozzie and Bernie Sanders...probably won't fall for that, might give some Jose Canseco anecdotes though.

Don’t quote my good post with this

4 minutes ago, bmags said:

Don’t quote my good post with this

How else are they going to get rid of LaRussa?  His wife will talk him out of managing?

4 hours ago, SpringfieldFan said:

I don’t think I’ve ever seen 8 laughing smileys on a thread post.

There's a reason I'm so highly respected here