July 24, 20223 yr Author 2 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: I'm more interested in Mitch Keller than Quintana. I think it’s time to give up on your theoretical Vaughn for Keller fantasy ?
July 24, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I think it’s time to give up on your theoretical Vaughn for Keller fantasy ? ?
July 24, 20223 yr 17 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I think it’s time to give up on your theoretical Vaughn for Keller fantasy ? No not Vaughn
July 24, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: I'm more interested in Mitch Keller than Quintana. The cost will be a lot higher given there's 4 extra years of team control. I'd guess teams have been trying to buy low on Keller for quite awhile now yet he's still in Pittsburgh.
July 25, 20223 yr On 7/23/2022 at 1:16 PM, hi8is said: He’s been rocked his last two starts so they shouldn’t be after him…. Maybe Renyolds. James Shields was rocked in his last two starts and Hahn gave up for two minor leaguer's one of which turned into an Allstar so beware.
July 25, 20223 yr 18 minutes ago, A-Train to 35th said: James Shields was rocked in his last two starts and Hahn gave up for two minor leaguer's one of which turned into an Allstar so beware. James and I used to play against each other so never been a fan… after the He Who Shall Not Be Named trade though… I simply hate him.
July 27, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Robert Murray also indicating we have interest in Quintana. What does he really give us… An ability to put Kopech in the bullpen?
July 27, 20223 yr Just now, hi8is said: What does he really give us… An ability to put Kopech in the bullpen? The ability to give Kopech more days between starts so we can limit his innings.
July 27, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, chw42 said: The ability to give Kopech more days between starts so we can limit his innings. I’d put him in the pen.
July 27, 20223 yr Author 3 minutes ago, hi8is said: What does he really give us… An ability to put Kopech in the bullpen? He gives us an extra starter for the stretch run and then a left-handed relief arm come October. I’m good with it if the price is reasonable and it doesn’t prevent us from addressing the positional group.
July 27, 20223 yr Lynn and Lucas are both really grinding right now, too. Being in a situation where the Sox have more capable starters than rotation spots could only be a good thing.
July 27, 20223 yr 7 hours ago, hi8is said: I’d put him in the pen. Pretty sure I saw a tweet quoting Katz the other day that suggested there were no plans to move Kopech to the pen down the stretch.
July 27, 20223 yr I mean, they could have just signed Q in FA, so trading anything for him now feels stupid to me, but whatever. A lefty arm to spot start and or eat innings out of the pen couldn’t hurt. Doesn’t much help the ground ball offense or horrible OF defense but it’s something.
July 27, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Pretty sure I saw a tweet quoting Katz the other day that suggested there were no plans to move Kopech to the pen down the stretch. Good. Let the man go.
July 27, 20223 yr Quintana was pretty gnarly in 2020-2021; On 7/24/2022 at 7:37 PM, A-Train to 35th said: James Shields was rocked in his last two starts and Hahn gave up for two minor leaguer's one of which turned into an Allstar so beware. One of the best players in baseball. Hahn was warned not to trade him. Just don't trade good up-the-middle prospects. No one trades good prospects for a pitcher like Quintana anyway. Rule 5 guy or 3rd tier prospect.
July 27, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, GreenSox said: Quintana was pretty gnarly in 2020-2021; One of the best players in baseball. Hahn was warned not to trade him. Just don't trade good up-the-middle prospects. No one trades good prospects for a pitcher like Quintana anyway. Rule 5 guy or 3rd tier prospect. Well done.
July 27, 20223 yr Author 6 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Quintana was pretty gnarly in 2020-2021; One of the best players in baseball. Hahn was warned not to trade him. Just don't trade good up-the-middle prospects. No one trades good prospects for a pitcher like Quintana anyway. Rule 5 guy or 3rd tier prospect. Who warned Hahn not trade him?
July 27, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Who warned Hahn not trade him? Paddy. He really wasn't some obscure prospect. I figure Hahn didn't have a lifetime contract then, so he figured "it's now or never." a couple of weeks later he used a first rounder for Burdi. 6 weeks later, rebuild time. Hahn certainly has been more cautious in his trades since then. To some, too cautious. I can see Quintana if they are confident he can innings-eat; not to move Kopech to the bullpen, but to give him (and others) rest. Edited July 27, 20223 yr by GreenSox
July 27, 20223 yr Honestly, I don't see the harm in trading for Q. It won't cost much/anything in prospect capital, I don't think. Q, Kopech, and ReyLo can tag team as makes sense every 5th game, keeping Kopech's innings down. If that's the big move this trade deadline...okay, I guess. The Sox are not in a position to make big splashes right now. For the most part, they need to win with what they have this year and hope that the window doesn't close in 2023/24, because if they start trading prospect capital, 2025-2027 is going to be very painful on the heals of a 2016-2019 rebuild that didn't yield any meaningful results. Edited July 27, 20223 yr by BRDSR
July 27, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, BRDSR said: Honestly, I don't see the harm in trading for Q. It won't cost much/anything in prospect capital, I don't think. Q, Kopech, and ReyLo can tag team as makes sense every 5th game, keeping Kopech's innings down. If that's the big move this trade deadline...okay, I guess. The Sox are not in a position to make big splashes right now. For the most part, they need to win with what they have this year and hope that the window doesn't close in 2023/24, because if they start trading prospect capital, 2025-2027 is going to be very painful on the heals of a 2016-2019 rebuild that didn't yield any meaningful results. Yeah, getting Q makes sense to be able to reduce Kopech's innings down the stretch. Doesn't make sense if there isn't a bigger move to go with it though.
July 27, 20223 yr On 7/24/2022 at 1:03 PM, Jack Parkman said: I'm more interested in Mitch Keller than Quintana. I'll never forget when you though Vaughn for Keller was a fair deal.. And that was only 4 months ago
July 27, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, GreenSox said: Paddy. He really wasn't some obscure prospect. I figure Hahn didn't have a lifetime contract then, so he figured "it's now or never." a couple of weeks later he used a first rounder for Burdi. 6 weeks later, rebuild time. Hahn certainly has been more cautious in his trades since then. To some, too cautious. I can see Quintana if they are confident he can innings-eat; not to move Kopech to the bullpen, but to give him (and others) rest. This isn't true. Nobody with the Sox really even saw Tatis playing in games. He was in DSL and on back fields in Arizona mostly. Paddy liked him but he was never projected to be anything close to this. He was like the 28th ranked international prospect in his class.
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