TheFutureIsNear Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Trade Jose for prospects- Not because I want to trade him, but the roster is painted into a corner with similar players with no position flex. And Jose probably still has pretty decent value with how is hitting and isn’t going to be a part of a Sox championship…sadly Trade Cueto- cash in on value Trade Graveman- Again, just value wise Graveman can likely get us something decent. See if anyone will take Pollack for nothing…don’t see why he’s going to turn down his 10M option next year and we don’t want to be stuck with him. Maybe Yankees in return for Gallo? If we aren’t willing/they aren’t ready to give Colas/Cespedes a shot next year, acquire 2 corner OF’s and a reliable backend starter in the off-season….Without trading Montgomery, Colas, or Vera TA Yoan Robert Vaughn Eloy Yaz Corner OF Corner OF (LH) Harrison/Burger/Other young internal option. Hope Gio can figure it out and Kopech can take a step forward and I’m delusional enough to think that roster can at lease easily win the central. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaDoc Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) With the way Jerry is loyal, Jose is only traded if HE wants to go to a contender. In that scenario, I would imagine a handshake agreement that he would be signed in the offseason. There is a team who has lost a bat, I believe for the year, who could use a first baseman and mid order bat............the Astros. Since Benitendi brought two 45 value prospects and a third player lets see.....#6 MLB prospect 45 FV AAA Peter Solomon who is a 25yo RHP possibly better as multi inning reliever. #13 40 FV Jaime Melendez 20 yo RHP in AA. ERA over five but young and in 66IP has 95k. At 5' 8" probable reliever and a better third piece perhaps as a wild card give me FV 40 18 yo OF #27 Luis Baez in DSL Edited July 30, 2022 by BamaDoc , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Trade Abreu, Graveman, Cueto, and Lynn. In return could we get a young SP capable of being #3, a potential 2B, and some high upside young future bullpen type arms? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Won’t happen but Abreu to the Brewers would be a perfect fit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, fathom said: Won’t happen but Abreu to the Brewers would be a perfect fit The Twins return for Nelson Cruz (at the time, ignoring that Ryan has way exceeded expectations) would be a pretty good comp, except Abreu has more value because he can actually play 1b. I'd also very much like the idea of cashing out on Cueto for whatever the Sox can get but I can't foresee that happening either. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Hombre Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 4 hours ago, SoCalChiSox said: At this point all I am asking is don't trade the young savages. I've given up on the thought of a legitimate window because it's a pipe dream. We have young savages?? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 8 hours ago, Tnetennba said: Hahn and TLR must both go simultaneously. If Hahn or KW goes it just open the door for TLR to run the ship aground from the FO. Firing the coaching staff doesn’t solve everything but would be a good start though. Williams is supposed to be on his last contract with the Sox .I have no idea when it's supposed to end though. That's what was reported by the Athletic : Nov 15, 2021 — Williams, 57, said that before signing his most recent contract in early 2020, he told White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf it would be his last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bad Hombre said: We have young savages?? 😂 He means Montgomery and Colas. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 I'd love to say that every player on this team should be "on the table" but do we still trust RickyGM to make such trades? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 6 hours ago, TheFutureIsNear said: Trade Jose for prospects- Not because I want to trade him, but the roster is painted into a corner with similar players with no position flex. And Jose probably still has pretty decent value with how is hitting and isn’t going to be a part of a Sox championship…sadly Trade Cueto- cash in on value Trade Graveman- Again, just value wise Graveman can likely get us something decent. See if anyone will take Pollack for nothing…don’t see why he’s going to turn down his 10M option next year and we don’t want to be stuck with him. Maybe Yankees in return for Gallo? If we aren’t willing/they aren’t ready to give Colas/Cespedes a shot next year, acquire 2 corner OF’s and a reliable backend starter in the off-season….Without trading Montgomery, Colas, or Vera TA Yoan Robert Vaughn Eloy Yaz Corner OF Corner OF (LH) Harrison/Burger/Other young internal option. Hope Gio can figure it out and Kopech can take a step forward and I’m delusional enough to think that roster can at lease easily win the central. Pollock will be either $12 or $13 million next year based on PA incentives this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Orioles Tigers A's all top 5 in AL bullpen ERA in July. Don't need huge budgets to pull off that accomplishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Boopa1219 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Abreu, Cueto, and Harrison should all be available, at the very least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 As uninspiring as this team is, they're not going to make another white flag trade being only 3 games out. I just hope they don't blow the few good prospects they have chasing a bad season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 On 7/30/2022 at 6:32 AM, bmags said: Within 2 years of the cheap talent arriving in the league, which Sox fans had to wait through 3 years of heavy losing for, Hahn has a team with a bottom barrel farm, exhausted budget, and .500 results. That is exactly what he did put together in 2015-16 after pulling back and re setting. He had been in this position for a decade yet has not build a premiere player development or scouting engine. The training staff, for years among the top in baseball, has regressed to the worst under his watch. His free agency record is appalling. All his fault. Perhaps actual accountability being exercised would make everyone focus more on performing their jobs instead of perfecting pushing off responsibility in everyone else. That’s the only thing Hahn is good at. That was feisty. Almost sounding just like me. Only I make sure to bring up Jerry most of the time I mention Hahn. Jerry is the Dungeon Master and Hahn has a dog bowl in a cage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 14 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: That was feisty. Almost sounding just like me. Only I make sure to bring up Jerry most of the time I mention Hahn. Jerry is the Dungeon Master and Hahn has a dog bowl in a cage. Is it possible that Hahn is now gun-shy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, oldsox said: Is it possible that Hahn is now gun-shy? Doubtful. Trades are all discussed internally and decided by a group. Hahn may be the one doing the negotiating but it's all planned oout ahead of time and multiple calls being made and I'll get back to you on that stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) On 7/31/2022 at 12:48 AM, Joshua Strong said: Abreu, Cueto, and Harrison should all be available, at the very least. Cueto and Liam could net strong returns tomorrow, Tim and Lucas the two biggest younger players not controlled past 2024. Personally I'd trade Eloy in the offseason if he can finish strong and you can land a solid return. Was jonesing for an Eloy & Mercedes for Lopez trade last offseason based on Kim Ng's interest in both players and Miami's excess pitching. Edited August 2, 2022 by South Side Hit Men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 Three of the Four Horses of the White Sox Apocalypse assemble for the Trade Deadline, Monday, August 1, 2022. Pictured Left to Right: The White Horse (The Antichrist); The Pale Horse (Death) and the Black Horse (Famine). Chilling at home, staying far away from these jackasses: Kenny Williams, The Red Horse (War) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 It's bad that the team is 3 games out, and we're talking about selling. I'm not saying the discussions are wrong. I don't think there are many of us, if any, that are confident the Sox can take the division let alone go anywhere in the playoffs. The offensive woes continue, and they're not going to get better enough. That being said, I don't think there's any way they sell. They probably should at least re-tool, but it's not going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 33 minutes ago, hogan873 said: It's bad that the team is 3 games out, and we're talking about selling. I'm not saying the discussions are wrong. I don't think there are many of us, if any, that are confident the Sox can take the division let alone go anywhere in the playoffs. The offensive woes continue, and they're not going to get better enough. That being said, I don't think there's any way they sell. They probably should at least re-tool, but it's not going to happen. In this division no chance they sell anyone off… But, the fact that they arent doing so sets up a strong possibility of a real mess this offseason, with a lot of needs and almost no money to spend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) Orioles already sold on Mancini and the Guardians are looking for any takers on Civale or Plesac. Ugly spot for the Sox to be stuck in. Not to mention six of last nine games for Guardians against the Royals. Not just the Twins they have 13 games remaining to catch. Edited August 2, 2022 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) @wegner White Sox, La Russa and Reinsdorf mocked in Polish (Laughing at the who string) Edited August 2, 2022 by South Side Hit Men 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Adding the extra wild card team has made teams less aggressive just like eveyone said it would. Last years deadline was wild and this years is a giant popcorn fart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 Would have been a better deadline if the Sox sold Cueto, anyone else they could have gotten good players in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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