27 minutes ago, turnin' two said:

Doc must be a Sox fan.  

If he was, he would have done this a long time ago. 

3 minutes ago, JoshPR said:

Then he needs to step down. His good buddy should notice this and not be a knucklehead. 

No doubt in my mind JR is in his “screw the fans for booing a great manager” mode

41 minutes ago, Quin said:

Split this off from the Fire Tony thread.

As infuriating as he is as a manager, I hope he's doing OK. Listening to Fegan talk about Tony after games on the FutureSox podcast really hammered home that these games are just taking a lot out of him.

Not saying that as a joke either. These games are stressful to watch. At his age, I can't imagine the strain of these games are taking on his body.

If this season has taken it's toll on us, It has to be 10x heavier on him. 

Not excusing Tony from this mess, but he was suppose to be leaving his couch to manage a young "great" club where all he basically needed to do was fill out a line-up card and enjoy the ride to a ring.   Every night Hahn has him playing 2-3 men short, including a revolving door to the IL.   On top of that, this offense flat out stinks.   

Managing this team sucks.  As the great Lou Brown once turned down a chance to manage the Cleveland Indians : "Let me get back to you, will ya, Charlie? I got a guy on the other line asking about some white walls."

 

 

Lets see if you’re right on the first point Shane. I hope you’re wrong though and he finishes the year.

1 hour ago, Quin said:

Split this off from the Fire Tony thread.

As infuriating as he is as a manager, I hope he's doing OK. Listening to Fegan talk about Tony after games on the FutureSox podcast really hammered home that these games are just taking a lot out of him.

Not saying that as a joke either. These games are stressful to watch. At his age, I can't imagine the strain of these games are taking on his body.

This may sound cold-hearted, but I really don't care whether he's OK or not. He agreed to take on this job at age 76 after having a second DUI. He clearly wasn't physically cut out to do this for more than a year. He's done this to himself, and made us all miserable in the process.

 

I don’t hope for anything significantly wrong with Tony, but I’m also not going to act like I want to ever see him manage again.

49 minutes ago, chw42 said:

Yeah I'm not sure I remember press releases for managers missing one game. 

I’m sure they felt some pressure to say something, even if it is just a health issue, given the circumstances. 

6 minutes ago, fathom said:

I don’t hope for anything significantly wrong with Tony, but I’m also not going to act like I want to ever see him manage again.

Doesn't appear that there are too many people at the park tonight.  The invitations for the farewell party must have been sent out late.

11 minutes ago, fathom said:

I don’t hope for anything significantly wrong with Tony, but I’m also not going to act like I want to ever see him manage again.

Exactly. Hope he’s ok and hope he never manages the Sox again is fine to say.

1 hour ago, Quin said:

Split this off from the Fire Tony thread.

As infuriating as he is as a manager, I hope he's doing OK. Listening to Fegan talk about Tony after games on the FutureSox podcast really hammered home that these games are just taking a lot out of him.

Not saying that as a joke either. These games are stressful to watch. At his age, I can't imagine the strain of these games are taking on his body.

No doubt that he is under stress due to the poor Sox performance.  A good time and excuse to retire.  Hope he recovers well.

If I slip the Doc a hundo, you think he would rule him out for 23?

Lucky he missed this one.

DJ and McKnight said he was out there until 430-500, BP time, they did the pregame interview with him or were about to...then he suddenly didn't feel well.

Shouldn't be a total surprise because of the disappointing and increasingly embarrassing last two weeks of pitifulness/ineptitude.

 

LR missing tonight's game per fans' wishes

3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

If I slip the Doc a hundo, you think he would rule him out for 23?

PED's for managers?  Amphetamines?   Slip something in the drink that trips off the sensors in the testing lab?

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The weird part about this is he participated in the pre game including meeting with some press without a hint something could be wrong. I don't like him, but hopefully OK.

1 minute ago, Dick Allen said:

The weird part about this is he participated in the pre game including meeting with some press without a hint something could be wrong. I don't like him, but hopefully OK.

He’s being re-evaluated tomorrow.  Doesn’t seem too serious.  Of course, this being the Sox, they usually wait a week before making a diagnosis.

6 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

The weird part about this is he participated in the pre game including meeting with some press without a hint something could be wrong. I don't like him, but hopefully OK.

I think this is very clearly the end of Tony as Sox manager.  To your point, he was fine at his press conference just hours before the game.  Did he suddenly fall ill and was able to immediately see a doctor who told him to sit out tonight’s game? Seems far-fetched to me.  Did he receive a medical diagnosis from a legit physical or medical test that took place prior to his press conference that requires him not to endure White Sox baseball?  Possible, but still seems unlikely.  This wreaks of a planned leave to save face from being fired, but even if it’s truly health related I can’t see him continuing managing at his age.

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Maybe it’s as simple as he had a headache tonight. 

10 minutes ago, fathom said:

Maybe it’s as simple as he had a headache tonight. 

Or a wine tasting event.

I hope he's ok, I truly do. As a person not that much younger than Tony, they don't have to make up medical issues. They can pick any one of a dozen maladies that impact us "seasoned citizens". Just pick one and allow him a gracious exit. 

2 hours ago, MiddleCoastBias said:

I'll be the cynic and say it - this might be a PR move as much as a health move.

Others have mentioned it throughout the season but this may just be laying the groundwork to give Tony an out. Not doubting he may have health issues, just that publicly having him sit out could also be a calculated move to telegraph the off-season separation. 

 

Bingo. 

1 hour ago, CentralChamps21 said:

This may sound cold-hearted, but I really don't care whether he's OK or not. He agreed to take on this job at age 76 after having a second DUI. He clearly wasn't physically cut out to do this for more than a year. He's done this to himself, and made us all miserable in the process.

 

Goddamn dude.

56 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

If I slip the Doc a hundo, you think he would rule him out for 23?

When I showed the Tweet to my friend he said that it’s 4 months too late. I said it’s not too late for 2023.

This is Reinsdorf we are talking about here. This could be all about protecting La Russa's legacy and giving him an out that isn't being fired. Even JR can't be stupid enough to believe TLR can be back here in any capacity next season. 

I definitely believe there are health issues, because he's like 80 fucking years old, and a heavy drinker. But the timing seems quite suspicious. 

20 minutes ago, PitchatRisktoZisk said:

I hope he's ok, I truly do. As a person not that much younger than Tony, they don't have to make up medical issues. They can pick any one of a dozen maladies that impact us "seasoned citizens". Just pick one and allow him a gracious exit. 

Actually I suggested what you are suggesting several months ago. Tony walks around with one shoulder really slouching. I said use any physical excuse and give Cairo a look. Either the team takes off so you bring him back ot its more of the same and you won't make the mistake of Cairo in 2023.

1 minute ago, Dick Allen said:

Actually I suggested what you are suggesting several months ago. Tony walks around with one shoulder really slouching. I said use any physical excuse and give Cairo a look. Either the team takes off so you bring him back ot its more of the same and you won't make the mistake of Cairo in 2023.

I know doctors who listen to him talk to the media and have said something is wrong 

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