September 13, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, wegner said: I'll go with this order....Situational Hitting, LaRussa, Situational Hitting, Injuries, Situational Hitting, the Nationwide Jingle Curse, Situational Hitting and Joe Kelly. I go with TWTW followed by Ganas. Miguel Cairo told Eloy and the rest of the team you either give a s%*# or GTFO before his first game as interim manager. Quote “He told us pretty much, 'If you don’t want to be here, then get the (expletive) out,'" All-Star closer Liam Hendriks told USA TODAY Sports. “It was eye-opening to some guys who really have never been told no.” Tony was the grandparent who spoiled the grandchildren, leaving them with 14 cavities and borderline obesity by feeding them ice cream, cake and pop for 90 days over the Summer. Miguel is holding players accountable, which hasn’t happened since Ricky Renteria was here. It should have been done much earlier. Your not hearing the “I told Tony we are or are not doing this or I’m just ignoring his ass” quotes you heard from at least a few players last season.
September 13, 20223 yr 14 hours ago, HOFHurt35 said: Just that one? This is a .500 team outside of this past strong week. Yes. So have the other teams in the Central. Not much better. But that series is one, at this time, would have helped us immensely.
September 13, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: The White Sox are hitting .273 with runners in scoring position this year. That is 5th best in baseball and higher than their .262 batting average overall. Remember that game a couple weeks ago where they somehow had 8 hits with RISP but only scored 6 runs? The problem isn't situational hitting and it hasn't been the whole year. They have a high batting average because that's their approach at the plate in every situation, sacrifice power for average. They have a .763 OPS with runners in scoring position, good for 14th in baseball. Despite being 5th in hits with RISP, 5th in total plate appearances with RISP, they are 11th in RBI in that case - because they don't hit the ball hard. They spent the whole year sacrificing power for contact because they wanted to be good situational hitters, when in reality they would have done way more damage if they were focused on driving the ball and sacrificed some extra strikeouts in the process. So we agree that the offense and offensive approach are the main reasons this team dug a hole that this late season surge most likely won't save them from.
September 13, 20223 yr 29 minutes ago, wegner said: So we agree that the offense and offensive approach are the main reasons this team dug a hole that this late season surge most likely won't save them from. Oh totally, I just wouldn't describe that as situational hitting. And the awful defense and disappointing pitching each would also show up in "main reasons this team dug a hole" as well, to at least a comparable level as the offense.
September 13, 20223 yr 51 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: I go with TWTW followed by Ganas. Miguel Cairo told Eloy and the rest of the team you either give a s%*# or GTFO before his first game as interim manager. Tony was the grandparent who spoiled the grandchildren, leaving them with 14 cavities and borderline obesity by feeding them ice cream, cake and pop for 90 days over the Summer. Miguel is holding players accountable, which hasn’t happened since Ricky Renteria was here. It should have been done much earlier. Your not hearing the “I told Tony we are or are not doing this or I’m just ignoring his ass” quotes you heard from at least a few players last season. Wow, so it looks like the substitute teacher brought the paddle and a ruler to crack some knuckles. Liking it.
September 13, 20223 yr 11 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Oh totally, I just wouldn't describe that as situational hitting. And the awful defense and disappointing pitching each would also show up in "main reasons this team dug a hole" as well, to at least a comparable level as the offense. An example of what I consider situational hitting is this....I've been watching baseball and White Sox baseball for a long time, and I cannot remember any team that is so bad with the bases loaded. It is very odd. I agree defense has been bad as well....unfortunately this team does not play good baseball and their talent level has fallen off to a point that playing bad baseball really matters. Finally, the lack of hustle at times is something that most White Sox fans, me included, just cannot stand.
September 13, 20223 yr So are we holding back Cease for Cleveland? Risky, but I think we should. Sox are essentially 5 back with 2 weeks to play - chances must be taken.
September 13, 20223 yr Lynn against the Guardians this year: July 11: 4 IP, 8 ER July 23 (DH): 6 IP, 0 ER, 3 hits, 6 Ks August 19: 5.2 IP, 1 ER, 5 hits, 1 BB, 1 HBP, 6 Ks.
September 13, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, GreenSox said: So are we holding back Cease for Cleveland? Risky, but I think we should. Sox are essentially 5 back with 2 weeks to play - chances must be taken. Cease is scheduled to start game 1 against Cleveland when they're in Chicago next week.
September 13, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, chw42 said: Cease is scheduled to start game 1 against Cleveland when they're in Chicago next week. Yea, I see they moved Lynn up; that's even better; move the good ones up.
September 13, 20223 yr Sox pretty much have to go 3-1 against Cleveland or sweep. Not afraid of the Twins anymore, they're dropping like a rock.
September 14, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, Balta1701 said: Lynn against the Guardians this year: July 11: 4 IP, 8 ER July 23 (DH): 6 IP, 0 ER, 3 hits, 6 Ks August 19: 5.2 IP, 1 ER, 5 hits, 1 BB, 1 HBP, 6 Ks. Lance Lynn was basically completing Spring Training his first seven starts of the season, including July 11, and likely wasn’t fully healthy. Lynn may not win Thursday, but I’d expect a 6 IP 0-2 run performance, putting them in a position to win if the Sox offense and bullpen does their job. Also assuming they will not pitch to Jose Ramirez, who should not see a good pitch to hit if the Sox are concentrating. Edited September 14, 20223 yr by South Side Hit Men
September 14, 20223 yr Just now, ChiSox59 said: Franconia just abusing Clase lately. Gotta catch up at some point. Exactly. Obviously tomorrow is looking good if the Angels pitching isn’t awful. They’ll be saving the best arms for Thursday.
September 14, 20223 yr sorry if someone else wrote this, kinda skipped to the end. with cleveland winning tonight they've played 140 games and have a 75-65 record. assuming a 11-11 finish which is ... probably favorable? they end up at 86 wins. since they'll likely have the tie breaker we'll need 87 wins. we are 72-69. We'll need to finish 15-6 (14-6 if we hold on tonight to win) in order to win the division. obviously for every game they win above 11-11 it gets that much tougher. Finish 13-9? They have 88 wins. We'd then need 89 and to finish 17-4. Needless to say, i'm not a fan of math after thinking this through. So much can happen. Let's hope for a sweep of Rox, a loss tomorrow by CLE and we beat them head to head. That current 3.5 game deficit turns into 1 game VERY QUICKLY. I know they're all must wins, but this week is especially important.
September 14, 20223 yr 12 hours ago, wegner said: I'll go with this order....Situational Hitting, LaRussa, Situational Hitting, Injuries, Situational Hitting, the Nationwide Jingle Curse, Situational Hitting and Joe Kelly. Aren't better players, by definition, better at situational hitting? Seems like our starters playing in more games would have helped?
September 14, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, Texsox said: Aren't better players, by definition, better at situational hitting? Seems like our starters playing in more games would have helped? I apologize if I did not use the LaRussa emoji properly there....still don't have the handle on that one but I'll still use it occasionally.
September 14, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, he gone. said: sorry if someone else wrote this, kinda skipped to the end. with cleveland winning tonight they've played 140 games and have a 75-65 record. assuming a 11-11 finish which is ... probably favorable? they end up at 86 wins. since they'll likely have the tie breaker we'll need 87 wins. we are 72-69. We'll need to finish 15-6 (14-6 if we hold on tonight to win) in order to win the division. obviously for every game they win above 11-11 it gets that much tougher. Finish 13-9? They have 88 wins. We'd then need 89 and to finish 17-4. Needless to say, i'm not a fan of math after thinking this through. So much can happen. Let's hope for a sweep of Rox, a loss tomorrow by CLE and we beat them head to head. That current 3.5 game deficit turns into 1 game VERY QUICKLY. I know they're all must wins, but this week is especially important. Sox have to win 3/4 vs Cleveland and go 11-6 or better in their other 17 games if Cleveland goes 10-10 or worse rest of season against non Sox teams. It’s doable, but it absolutely starts with sweeping Rox, beating Cleveland Thursday and getting at worse 2/3 in Detroit this weekend. Then you at least control your destiny with 3 at home vs. Cleveland next week with the chance to pass them.
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