1 minute ago, chw42 said:

Uh...why? Are you afraid his arm is gonna is gonna get destroyed with how many sliders he's throwing?

Because they need to rip the bandaid off and rebuild again. They can't compete with the fucking Guardians, who traded all of their good players other than Ramirez and still are better than the Sox. 

Edited September 21, 20223 yr by Jack Parkman

4 minutes ago, BigHurt3515 said:

Too bad Cairo let Deikman stay in there and give up 5

Cairo completely screwed up the bullpen management tonight.

Francona managing against Tony or Cairo isn’t even fair

Sox play just good enough to lose 

Just now, Jack Parkman said:

Because they need to rip the bandaid off and rebuild again. 

Id rather watch another decade of mediocre wild card contention than another rebuild, but thanks anyway.  We just tried to rebuild for a decade.  This organization is incapable of it.

Graveman was awful 

Diekman was worse

Cleveland owns extra innings

And in such a fitting way to end the season, Leury piece of literal s%*# Garcia.  Thank you Rick Hahn for that amazing signing.

Just now, fathom said:

Francona managing against Tony or Cairo isn’t even fair

The bullpen management this game was just brutal. 

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

Would be so fitting for Leury to end this game 

The Guardians should just troll us and throw a lollipop up there for Leury.

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Would be so fitting for Leury to end this game 

It's poetic.

• Abreu gives us hope.
• Hahn's sole trade deadline acquisition destroys the hope.
• La Russa's favorite player ends the game on the weakest fly ball imaginable.

Just now, southsideirish71 said:

Are we rebuilding again. I missed that.  

LOL! We need to be like the Royals.  Typical get rid of everybody for that mythical haul of prospects that you hope the scouts don't underestimate.  

The fat lady is Diekman and Moncada.

5 minutes ago, fathom said:

Amazing decision playing Robert tonight 

I wanted Sheets in the lineup against the righty.  His bat has been good.

2 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said:

Shakes head - not at Hendricks and I still say with a better manager we will see a better Moncada. More like a 4 WAR guy. But they need someone creative for a lot of this. 

Yes, Moncada has to return to 2021 or even better 2019 Moncada for the Sox to have any chance to succeed in future Octobers.

2 minutes ago, Tony said:

I know these jobs are in VERY high demand...but who worth a damn wants to inherit this mess? Sorry, this isn't just an overreaction to tonight, as listed above, the Sox have an insane amount of money tied into a collection of talent that simply can't compete in the worst division in baseball. The system is still in the bottom third of the league and the entire organization needs to be re-started, for an owner who likes to do things "his own way" 

 

Qualified solid people would be OK coming here with the current roster.

Qualified solid people are not OK coming here with the current owner. 

Most external people won't want to work under Jerry unless they can't get a job elsewhere, Jerry isn't going to live forever, so a new owner will likely want a new FO.

Jerry could be around for another month or decade, or any length in between. It's just not a stable position to walk into, assuming Jerry even wants to go beyond his personal clique. 

2 minutes ago, kitekrazy said:

So how many guys did Cairo let Diekman face?

When five guys have already pitched one inning or fewer out of the pen, the remaining guys are forced to stay in no matter how bad they look. This is one of the problems with limiting all the relievers to one inning every game.

2 minutes ago, Green Line said:

Id rather watch another decade of mediocre wild card contention than another rebuild, but thanks anyway.  We just tried to rebuild for a decade.  This organization is incapable of it.

I believe it is the only way to a world series. They have to at least try again. 

Even the Yankees and Dodgers have good farm systems to trade for other teams stars. There are two ways to a WS. Either you buy one and spend like the Mets, or you rebuild. There is no other way. 

Edited September 21, 20223 yr by Jack Parkman

Chuck will be trying to keep hope alive in the postgame...sorry Chuck I'm going to bed.

Rick Hahn's GM work in full display tonight.

His enemy #1 for me. 

Launch his ass right after 162 goes in the books.

I do not know what confuses me more. Lambert being used in the 7th or Robert being in the game. I just can’t fathom either of those moves. 

But anyway, that’s basically the season. Goodnight.

I still predict we see Tony back next year and Jerry sells the team after 2023.  Hahn and Menechino will be the scape goats off the field and Giolito and Vaughn dealt away.

Just now, HOFHurt35 said:

Rick Hahn's GM work in full display tonight.

His enemy #1 for me. 

Launch his ass right after 162 goes in the books.

Hahn should be ass canned for this bullpen alone.

4 minutes ago, Green Line said:

Id rather watch another decade of mediocre wild card contention than another rebuild, but thanks anyway.  We just tried to rebuild for a decade.  This organization is incapable of it.

I was so against it from the start. Terrible way to build a winner. In my world we kept Sale forever (even tho he has gotten hurt as people thought he would). I need to watch some 2005 Sox baseball to get in a better mood. ... as I pointed out then, draft picks are a crapshoot and yes the Sox whiffed on many during the tank job years. And  baseball completely changed and as I've said a lot the team is in no way built for modern baseball. Peace out.

Edited September 21, 20223 yr by greg775

Just now, Jack Parkman said:

I believe it is the only way to a world series. They have to at least try again. 

Even the Yankees and Dodgers have good farm systems to trade for other teams stars. 

They have a higher chance of lucking into a World Series like in 2005 than they do purposefully rebuilding under this organization’s leadership.  Its not happening.  How in the world could you ever trust Reinsdorf to lead another rebuild.  The definition of insanity.

1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said:

I believe it is the only way to a world series. They have to at least try again. 

Even the Yankees and Dodgers have good farm systems to trade for other teams stars. 

they don't give up their elite prospects

Just now, kitekrazy said:

they don't give up their elite prospects

Nope, they don't.