2 hours ago, Balta1701 said:

I do genuinely get why the White Sox might be willing to sell off half their team to the Dodgers.

But if they did this…aren’t they rebuilding? Two outfield rookies, 3 rookies in their top 6 pitchers, a weird infield setup where I’m not sure who is at shortstop? Is that going to compete this year?

Is this team as is going to compete?  Or with whatever bargain bin additions Hahn sells as solutions?  Let’s be real here. 

HELL NO!!! BELLINGER IS ADAM DUNN REVISITED

2 hours ago, JoshPR said:

HELL NO!!! BELLINGER IS ADAM DUNN REVISITED

They’re really nothing alike. At least Bellinger has legitimate value in the field and base paths. Dunn had none. 

22 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

They’re really nothing alike. At least Bellinger has legitimate value in the field and base paths. Dunn had none. 

Dunn was also a 4 year commitment at significant dollars back then.  Bellinger coming off a DFA wouldn’t be getting the same here. 

3 hours ago, Tnetennba said:

Is this team as is going to compete?  Or with whatever bargain bin additions Hahn sells as solutions?  Let’s be real here. 

If they’re not, then they shouldn’t be holding onto Cease.

1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said:

They’re really nothing alike. At least Bellinger has legitimate value in the field and base paths. Dunn had none. 

I meant with the bat. But yes you are right in that sense. Still I would stay away

Is this the worst first post on any message board in the history of mankind?

1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Is this the worst first post on any message board in the history of mankind?

Honestly? Yeah.

7 hours ago, Balta1701 said:

I do genuinely get why the White Sox might be willing to sell off half their team to the Dodgers.

But if they did this…aren’t they rebuilding? Two outfield rookies, 3 rookies in their top 6 pitchers, a weird infield setup where I’m not sure who is at shortstop? Is that going to compete this year?

I suppose one can call it a rebuild but, notwithstanding the reduction to payroll (depending on who you find to replace TA), I actually feel it would improve the team in '23 and beyond. Its a big trade for both sides and I'd be shocked if the Dodgers would move Miller let alone both he and Pages, not to mention Outman. That said, I'd move TA, Gio and Hendricks in a nano-sec for that package because if they are 'half their team' (I get the figure of speech), the Sox as a whole will be awful.  

2 hours ago, Balta1701 said:

If they’re not, then they shouldn’t be holding onto Cease.

I don’t disagree, but the sort of trade proposed is what I think a competent GM should be doing under the payroll constraints sent down from on high.  I don’t believe this team as is, or with anything Hahn could pull off is a real contender.  I’ve watched too much White Sox baseball to bank on another 2005 magically happening. 

I don't understand how this thread is still going with Bellinger being a free agent.

26 minutes ago, Quin said:

I don't understand how this thread is still going with Bellinger being a free agent.

Sort of morphed into an add Bellinger discussion with some rebuild talk tossed in.  The OP was so asinine it didn’t warrant actual attention ??. 

36 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

Sort of morphed into an add Bellinger discussion with some rebuild talk tossed in.  The OP was so asinine it didn’t warrant actual attention ??. 

Y’all know what? It’s a Bellinger thread now. First post is still there if you want to comment on it but we will probably be talking about Bellinger for a while. Go to town.

This would be a very Kenny Williams-like move. Get a former star for pennies on the dollar when their value is smashed, and pray their former self returns (which it wouldn't in this case).

I don’t know what the big deal is  about being a good base runner if you don’t get on base.

2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

I don’t know what the big deal is  about being a good base runner if you don’t get on base.

Gonna need a pinch runner since Engel got non-tendered.

21 hours ago, kitekrazy said:

Very good at getting NL players who don't perform for them.

Fans are getting to the point of considering any outsider with a pulse.  More dumpster diving.

The Dodgers have superior coaching and somehow the Sox would turn him around?

Amazing how are conditioned to a failed value system.

Over half of the games Sox scored 3 runs or less.

So  have cornered the market on stud LH NLers. 

Edited November 20, 20223 yr by pcq

46 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said:

Gonna need a pinch runner since Engel got non-tendered.

Engel is faster and 1/5 the price, at least. 

1 minute ago, Dick Allen said:

Engel is faster and 1/5 the price, at least. 

That was a joke, but with this organization you never know.

Man it is astounding to realize that bellinger would have led our team in HRs last year off his bad year. I do think given the LH batter issue we kinda need to take shots like this

3 minutes ago, bmags said:

Man it is astounding to realize that bellinger would have led our team in HRs last year off his bad year. I do think given the LH batter issue we kinda need to take shots like this

But for how much? He should have plenty of interest from non-competing teams that could add him in hope of catching fire and flipping him mid-season.

8 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

But for how much? He should have plenty of interest from non-competing teams that could add him in hope of catching fire and flipping him mid-season.

I actually don’t know lol. 

 

Make it happen FO 

8 hours ago, Dick Allen said:

I don’t know what the big deal is  about being a good base runner if you don’t get on base.

Bringing a lot of defensive value with some base running value gives Bellinger a decent floor even if the slash line is ugly. Even with the terrible OBP, he was still a 1.7 WAR player last year.