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Jesse Rogers: Sox Sign Benintendi - 5yr / $75M

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3 hours ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

This would turn out to be a great offseason

Wow do we have low great bar ....

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Honestly wouldn't mind taking a look at Tommy Pham if he came on the cheaper side as a insurance policy

7 minutes ago, JoshPR said:

Wow 5yrs. I'm surprised. Just seen this. Had to make a 6.5 hour trek to Boston for my wife's family situation. I like it. The only thing is 10ds arm

It's LF bro.

6 minutes ago, JoshPR said:

Honestly wouldn't mind taking a look at Tommy Pham if he came on the cheaper side as a insurance policy

Pham seems like he's kind of an asshole to have in the clubhouse. 

10 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:

It's LF bro.

I know BRO. Do you remember the chopper 10 hopper he threw from short left against the sox?

Once again, I'd like to thank whoever convinced AJ Pollock that he didn't want to play for the White Sox any longer.

2 minutes ago, wegner said:

Once again, I'd like to thank whoever convinced AJ Pollock that he didn't want to play for the White Sox any longer.

He also may very well get more than the 8 mil he left on the table

Just now, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

He also may very well get more than the 8 mil he left on the table

Good luck to him.  I'm very glad he left that 8 on the table here.

32 minutes ago, chw42 said:

Pham seems like he's kind of an asshole to have in the clubhouse. 

Just don't ask about his fantasy team.

10 minutes ago, wegner said:

Once again, I'd like to thank whoever convinced AJ Pollock that he didn't want to play for the White Sox any longer.

The Twins might be interested in him, but I doubt he wants to play in the miserable cold again. I can see him going back to the west coast. 

Just now, chw42 said:

The Twins might be interested in him, but I doubt he wants to play in the miserable cold again. I can see him going back to the west coast. 

Pollock returning to the Dodgers if he can't get a nice deal elsewhere seems inevitable to me.

i just heard Hahn wanted Beni in the draft over Fulmer. So who made the pick?

1 minute ago, Chick Mercedes said:

i just heard Hahn wanted Beni in the draft over Fulmer. So who made the pick?

The Red Sox did. He was picked in front of the White Sox.

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1 minute ago, maxjusttyped said:

Pollock returning to the Dodgers if he can't get a nice deal elsewhere seems inevitable to me.

I’m assuming he heads back and is more like the Pollock of 2 years ago than last year. Also I expect he will see a more reduced workload next year which might help him too. 

Just now, DirtySox said:

The Red Sox did. He was picked in front of the Sox.

Oh I get it. Thanks

So here’s my version of the math.

As far as I can tell the White Sox budget this different from Spotrac, as long as they don’t hit the tax.

When they have a buyout, Spotrac counts it as the previous year, but I think the White Sox count it for the next year. Otherwise I can’t find any reason for them to defer part of Clevinger’s deal until a buyout. So let’s assume that’s how they do the budgets - they count buyouts on the next season.

If that’s true, then it means the buyouts for Harrison and Pollock don’t count for 2022, they count for 2023. And Clevinger’s buyout doesn’t count for 2023, it counts for 2024.

If I’ve got that right, then they read the 2022 payroll as just over $190 million. $15 million on top of that for benefits. 

If I move the buyouts to 2023, and use the MLBTR estimates for arbitration amounts, then I have them about $162 million starting the offseason. $8 million for Clevinger takes them to $170 million, and today takes them to $185 million. There’s potentially a million or two difference in arb numbers and minor league contracts I can’t count yet.

As of right now, their payroll in this count is about $5 million less than 2022.

Their first round pick will cost them a little over $1 million more as well. Probably they count that too. So generously $5 million below last years’ payroll today, potentially a little less.

25 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

Pollock returning to the Dodgers if he can't get a nice deal elsewhere seems inevitable to me.

The Dodgers are trying to get better not worse 

17 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said:

If it makes you feel any better, Law has criticized almost every free agent signing of the off-season so far. Judge, Rodon, Bogaerts, Abreu & Edwin Diaz were all bad moves from his perspective.

I like Law as an evaluator and really respect his opinion, but he's very much of the opinion "players should get paid more, just don't do it like that" which *shrug*

3 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:

I'm not sure how he isn't putting two and two together with Eloy now being the  full-time DH. 

He mentioned somewhere that Josh Bell was a possibility after Abreu signed in Houston. I don't think he has the best grasp of the White Sox roster.

3 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

If it makes you feel any better, Law has criticized almost every free agent signing of the off-season so far. Judge, Rodon, Bogaerts, Abreu & Edwin Diaz were all bad moves from his perspective.

I like Law as an evaluator and really respect his opinion, but he's very much of the opinion "players should get paid more, just don't do it like that" which *shrug*

It's honestly been kind of weird. Literally every time a player has signed a contract worth $75 million or more this offseason, it's as if there's a scheduled Keith Law tweet 3 hours later talking about how it's such a bad decision. I know it's not his intention, but it comes off as overzealous ownership support.

I generally like him too, but it feels to me like he just hasn't adjusted to the new market.

6 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

If it makes you feel any better, Law has criticized almost every free agent signing of the off-season so far. Judge, Rodon, Bogaerts, Abreu & Edwin Diaz were all bad moves from his perspective.

I like Law as an evaluator and really respect his opinion, but he's very much of the opinion "players should get paid more, just don't do it like that" which *shrug*

I’m pretty sure people here said all those moves were bad.

9 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:

I'm not sure how he isn't putting two and two together with Eloy now being the  full-time DH. 

It really seems like the main reason he's down on the Sox as even contending for a wild card (aside from the 2B situation) is that he thinks Gavin Sheets is the primary DH

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